From The Pulpit To The People: Shifting to a Life on Mission
Leading people to new places in life and ministry can be hard. Too often our churches and small groups are primarily focused on… well, ourselves. Helping our people shift to a life on mission with God that is outwardly focused is the dream.
In this episode of the Everyday Disciple Podcast, we talk about leading people from being pew-sitters to active disciple makers. And guess what? This all starts in the mirror!
And if you are a pastor and need to navigate Elders or a Session, leadership teams, or stubborn board members toward mission, as you lead your people, this episode will give you practical and doable steps to get started.
In This Episode You’ll Learn:
- What the mission of the church really is (or should be).
- Why before change happens in your people it needs to happen in you.
- How to make major strides in shifting people to a life on mission in 8 weeks.
- What to do if your board or leaders are dragging their feet on this.
From this episode…
“As Christians, the family of God was never meant to be lived in isolation. And it was never meant to be lived primarily once a week, everyone listening to someone else talk about it and sing about it, but rather, in community together all week. And if you’re a pastor–this shift starts with you!”
Each week the Big 3 will give you immediate action steps to get you started.
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Links and Resources Mentioned in This Episode:
Coaching with Caesar and Tina in discipleship and missional living.
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Transcript
I've actually been told by mega church pastors.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, I don't do the discipleship thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's someone else's gig.
Caesar Kalinowski:We, we preach the word of God here.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what we do.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm like, okay, well, the word of God isn't, it's an integral part of being Jesus disciple and living like him in every year of life, but you're sure not going to teach it and expose people to it.
Caesar Kalinowski:and experience it and see it in every area of life, only on Sunday.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, you can't hide behind that, you can't, well, we're people of the word, and then, you know, the spirit will work all that out.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like, Jesus made disciples in community, all day, every day.
Caesar Kalinowski:If he did it that way, and he was Jesus, Without sin.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wasn't married, didn't have kids.
Caesar Kalinowski:. Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Had a little extra time in his hands.
Caesar Kalinowski:Spirit with a lot of our listeners and myself and you, . Um, then that, that's gonna be our call to, we really need to take that look in the mirror and ask the spirit of God to start changing us.
Heath Hollensbe:Welcome to the Everyday Disciple Podcast, where you'll learn how to live with greater intentionality and an integrated faith that naturally fits into every area of.
Heath Hollensbe:In other words, discipleship as a lifestyle.
Heath Hollensbe:This is the stuff your parents, pastors, and seminary professors probably forgot to tell you.
Heath Hollensbe:And now, here's your host, Caesar Kalinowski.
Caesar Kalinowski:Alrighty, here we are in the Pacific Northwest, as many of our listeners know.
Heath Hollensbe:I think any of our listeners that haven't been to the Northwest just need to come see how beautiful it is.
Heath Hollensbe:I think we live in probably the coolest place in America.
Caesar Kalinowski:I know, I often tell people this little tidbit of nature fact, and it's hard to believe, but the state of Washington actually has within its borders every ecosystem type in the whole world.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know that?
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow, I did not know that.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we, state of Washington's on the coast, Pacific Ocean, but then God drug his fingers inland a couple hundred miles.
Caesar Kalinowski:All salt water called the Puget Sound.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:And Tacoma.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's where we live on.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:We live right on that.
Caesar Kalinowski:And um, then we have some of the biggest mountains in the world.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Rainier, boom, right there.
Caesar Kalinowski:Then we have Cascade, or smaller, but they're mountains, but a whole range.
Caesar Kalinowski:And the Olympics.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we got that.
Caesar Kalinowski:We've got high desert.
Caesar Kalinowski:Which is very arid and different.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then low desert.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're completely different in the rock formation.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's the central Washington.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, we've got old growth forests.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, we've got rainforest.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, the whole rainforest on the peninsula.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, it's all of it.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's crazy.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, and and I'll tell you there's whole like ecosystems in each.
Caesar Kalinowski:I've been hiking, man.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're literally, I'm coming around a face, the edge of a mountain kind of thing where you can hike and it's snow.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then you come around and it's a pasture of like all, all flowers.
Caesar Kalinowski:Isn't that amazing?
Caesar Kalinowski:And then you turn around another corner and it's a giant waterfall and no one's around and it's like, it's from a movie.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's just, and then an hour later I'm hiking and I almost step on a rattlesnake cause we're in the desert.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, in the same day.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, it happens.
Caesar Kalinowski:It is awesome and beautiful.
Caesar Kalinowski:Anyway, that's not what we're talking about today.
Caesar Kalinowski:Talking about being disciple makers and how do you help your church or your small group?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, or anybody?
Caesar Kalinowski:How do you help people seriously make that transition from like pew sitters?
Caesar Kalinowski:I love that word.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah Like maybe you don't even have a pew.
Caesar Kalinowski:So hey, we've got chairs.
Caesar Kalinowski:We've got just sitters.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah
Heath Hollensbe:consumers.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah, you're right We get a lot of comments from listeners mostly pastors and really want to move toward leading a church into mission
Caesar Kalinowski:better Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:We hear that a lot.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like seriously, like what are the three steps?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So how can I do this?
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, we do get that question a lot.
Caesar Kalinowski:And unfortunately, brother and listeners, it's a pretty big and kind of multi step process for like, I'm taking my folks for X amount of years or centuries, they've been sort of consumers and.
Caesar Kalinowski:primarily traditional Sunday based, you know, the words preached, we love it, but golly, we know that's not what Jesus died for alone.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now there's more.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so how do we move them out to mission?
Caesar Kalinowski:How do we move them towards being disciple makers as a lifestyle?
Caesar Kalinowski:I hear it all the time and there's a lot to it, but there's a but in there.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's not complicated, but the first step is a doozy.
Caesar Kalinowski:And the reason that is, is because the first step starts in the mirror, before it ever makes it out to your pulpit.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I know, and I've had this conversation with just a lot of people, like really good leaders.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I, and I, and I tell them that, I said, listen, this is never going to go any further than you live it.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's right.
Caesar Kalinowski:People will never live out the gospel or live a lifestyle of discipleship and mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:any more than you do.
Caesar Kalinowski:You just got to believe it.
Caesar Kalinowski:And your elders, by the way.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, they just won't.
Caesar Kalinowski:You think about it.
Caesar Kalinowski:If the only mission that Jesus gave the church is to go make disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep, which it is.
Caesar Kalinowski:In every area of life, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:The gospel moving, helping us move from unbelief to belief in every area of life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Then wouldn't that not be job one, primary focus of the pastor, all the pastors, the staff?
Caesar Kalinowski:the elders, the deacons, everything.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like that's the mission of the church.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:That'd be it.
Caesar Kalinowski:So you should feel very confident if someone came to you and said, Hey, we're a brand new couple.
Caesar Kalinowski:We just got saved and we're having babies and we don't know how to live at all.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cause that's not how our parents lived.
Caesar Kalinowski:How do we, like, make disciples and live in the kingdom and live a lifestyle that's like that, you know, on mission?
Caesar Kalinowski:You should feel real comfortable to say, you know what?
Caesar Kalinowski:Hang out with the elders and their family, or hang out with the pastor and his wife, because they're living this way like 24 7.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's not often the case, is it?
Caesar Kalinowski:That's why I say that first step's a doozy.
Caesar Kalinowski:It starts in the mirror.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, are we really willing to take the call of Jesus, the commands, the mission of Jesus seriously enough to start in the mirror, start at home, start at our kitchen table, start at our dining room table, and start to begin to live in new ways and rhythms with our own family and then a few close friends, and actually have to say no to some of the busyness of quote church life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:business of church, the churchianity of lots of services and programming.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm not saying chuck that stuff, but maybe we need to say no to some of it.
Caesar Kalinowski:If our life is so busy, we can't even make disciples, which is the mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So that's the first step,
Heath Hollensbe:right?
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah, I think you're right.
Heath Hollensbe:I've known in experiences that I've been in too.
Heath Hollensbe:It's really hard once you have an operating system that, you know, you got a ton of ministries that are flourishing or you got a hundred ministries that you might need to consider shutting some down so that you have more time to do this outside of the
Caesar Kalinowski:church.
Caesar Kalinowski:I've actually been told by mega church pastors.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, I don't do the discipleship thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's someone else's gig.
Caesar Kalinowski:We, we preach the Word of God here.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, that's what we do.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm like, okay, well, the word of God isn't, it's an integral part of being Jesus disciple and living like him in every year of life, but you're sure not going to teach it, expose people to it and experience it and see it in every area of life only on Sunday.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, so you can't hide behind that.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can't, well, we're people of the word and then, you know, the, the spirit will work out all that out.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like Jesus made disciples in community all day, every day.
Caesar Kalinowski:If he did it that way and he was Jesus.
Caesar Kalinowski:without sin, wasn't married, didn't have kids, had a little extra time on his hands compared to a lot of our listeners and myself and you, um, then that's going to be our call too.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we, we really need to take that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Look in the mirror and ask the Spirit of God to start changing us.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, so I have to say that up front Yeah, I'm gonna give some practical stuff here in a second, but I have to say that up front So we have a
Heath Hollensbe:lot of listeners who have even commented on Facebook and stuff saying that Them and their families are willing and actually they're actually trying to move towards this sort of model of mission but they're bumping up against either board of directors or session or leadership teams or Stubborn old people, you know, that's not the way we've always done it.
Heath Hollensbe:What suggestions would you give to people that are in that situation who are trying to turn the ship, who have decided our family's on board, but now
Caesar Kalinowski:we need to convince others?
Caesar Kalinowski:Great question, man.
Caesar Kalinowski:First, I'd say, chances are you're not in a church where they're forbidding you from disciple making.
Caesar Kalinowski:If so, leave that church.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:I, you know, I don't, rarely will I advocate you to leave your church.
Caesar Kalinowski:Be the difference, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Be the change.
Caesar Kalinowski:But if, if they're saying, you know what, this whole way you're having lots of people in your life and meals and throwing parties and making people feel welcome and you're proclaiming the gospel to them, like when it counts and in the everyday stuff of life and you're seeing people come to faith at home, like don't do that anymore, you know, then you gotta leave.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm guessing that probably.
Caesar Kalinowski:almost nobody or nobody listening.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's the case.
Caesar Kalinowski:So I want to say is if God's leading you and your family and others to live on mission, like live out a lifestyle of discipleship, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And you know, all day, all week, every day, all that, then you get to, and if your rest of your church and pastors and elders aren't, That's unfortunate, because that's their role, and they get to, and they get to lead others in it.
Caesar Kalinowski:But if they're not stopping you, then you get to.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, as far as like, well, how do I live that way?
Caesar Kalinowski:But then I go and I hear a message on Sunday, and they're not helping anybody get that way.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, then do you believe in God's love, and are you secure enough in his love and affection for you to respectfully Pray about and then go and have those kind of conversations with those leaders.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:And how about this if you're a leader and You're starting to live this way as a pastor, but you're bored.
Caesar Kalinowski:No, they're not they're like they see it as a program sure Well, I guess so I mean, we're not you know We're gonna put that new wing on or we got a it's time for the new pew Recovering before we actually develop people and put that money into leadership development and helping people learn how to live in a discipleship environment Well, what I'd say is invite them to the party.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, that's a good invite them to join you Either as a leader or just as like a normal person that they love and that you support them and their ministry in the church but invite Invite them to, to join you in learning new ways to be and make disciples as part of their own growth and leadership of the body.
Caesar Kalinowski:Be humble about it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Don't, try not to pit, you know, your ways against theirs and all that, but invite them to join you.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then if they don't want to, or they won't do it, well then maybe use that as an opportunity to explore the, well, why not?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, what's the thing behind the thing if they're saying not, and then maybe.
Caesar Kalinowski:respectfully show them scripture.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like Matthew 28 here Jesus is saying this is our mission over and against any other mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so I'm having a hard time understanding.
Caesar Kalinowski:Why we can't get behind his mission as a church.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's okay if we want to do it on the side, but we're not gonna really throw, you know.
Caesar Kalinowski:But I say start by inviting people to the party as best you can.
Caesar Kalinowski:I love that
Heath Hollensbe:man.
Heath Hollensbe:So why don't you give me some practical ways on maybe a couple steps that we could encourage people to move forward if they wanted to get their hands
Caesar Kalinowski:dirty.
Caesar Kalinowski:All right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Let me give you my absolute favorite resource.
Caesar Kalinowski:for helping to start this shift.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're either in a full church or if it's just you and you're trying to change your small group experience, thinking, you know, maybe if a handful of our small groups start to kind of move from more traditional norms toward more incarnational Okay, which means putting flesh on out there in the neighborhood, not expecting everybody to come to us.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then more missional terms, missional means making disciples in all of life.
Caesar Kalinowski:So if you're trying to do that, let me just hip you to like my favorite resource, okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's not one I created, but it's the best thing I've ever seen that can truly help change this for you.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it'll, it'll, I promise you, it'll save you a ton of time and frustration and it'll help get your group or church on a path to much more missional lifestyle.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:Great.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now I've used this for years.
Caesar Kalinowski:with a lot of people.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's called the Tangible Kingdom Primer.
Caesar Kalinowski:It was based on a book, The Tangible Kingdom, which both were written, co written by Hugh Halter and Matt Smay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, um, I was, I was actually privileged to edit the primer for them, but they wrote the thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, and I love it.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I'll be honest with you.
Caesar Kalinowski:I, I don't know of another resource that's more helpful if, if that's your, like the place you find yourself in is transitioning from sort of a traditional church or traditional small group.
Caesar Kalinowski:Towards more missional stuff, like how do you start, like what are the baby steps and this is, this would be the tool for you.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you know, it's, it's a few bucks a person, like do it in community.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:So let me give you a quick heads up on how that tool works.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cause then I think you'll see why I love it so much.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So that, that tangible kingdom primer, it's like a book.
Caesar Kalinowski:It comes spiral bound.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's full color.
Caesar Kalinowski:Awesome.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's gorgeous.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's kind of like a journal.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:So you each need one.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, if you're doing with your wife, you're going to each have one anyway.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, and so you do this in community over eight weeks as a group.
Caesar Kalinowski:So it's not like a personal guide.
Caesar Kalinowski:You don't, you know, lay in bed and read it for, you know, 15 minutes in the morning.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, only you're going to do this in community with others.
Caesar Kalinowski:And each day, like seven days a week, over eight weeks, you'll have little bits that you're kind of reading and responding to and learning.
Caesar Kalinowski:And there's an action day and there's a community day and it follows.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like a whole process you'll probably take you about 15 or 20 minutes most days to kind of read through and then process the questions And then day five of the sequence will be your community day where you'll get together with your group.
Caesar Kalinowski:You have a meal and You'll work things out.
Caesar Kalinowski:Maybe you'll be out serving or it's but I'm telling you it's baby steps.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So have you ever used this?
Caesar Kalinowski:We went
Heath Hollensbe:through it with our community.
Heath Hollensbe:It was an amazing
Caesar Kalinowski:resource.
Caesar Kalinowski:And there again, it's kind of baby steps, but it'll help baby step you along an arc of, Oh, this is what God's really up to and what he's called his people to.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and what does it mean to be incarnational?
Caesar Kalinowski:Why did Jesus come?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, why do we get to go, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:And then, and then it actually moves you towards a community project at the end of the eight weeks that you'll actually do.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it'll stretch your comfort zones just
Heath Hollensbe:on the beauty of the community over a meal and you get to discuss kind of what you've talked about throughout the week and everyone brings opinion and conversation.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's awesome.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, so over eight weeks, you got seven days a week.
Caesar Kalinowski:You follow this pattern.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm just going to kind of give people a hip to it.
Caesar Kalinowski:So they kind of see why it kind of changes hearts and it changes.
Caesar Kalinowski:Action, actually, like it's, it's building new patterns, new habits in your life.
Caesar Kalinowski:So day one is always of each week of the, the eight weeks, um, is, is called the exploration day.
Caesar Kalinowski:The first day of that weekly rhythm introduces you to the subject of the week.
Caesar Kalinowski:There's eight different ones that kind of help move you on the trajectory and it provides thoughts or a quick little story and definitions to help you get started understanding the concept of that.
Caesar Kalinowski:So it's just that.
Caesar Kalinowski:And there are probably a few follow up questions.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you answered.
Caesar Kalinowski:Day two, it's a meditation day.
Caesar Kalinowski:So on that day, you're here's the scripture connected to yesterday's topic and well, let's give you a little bit of a biblical framework for that.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then a few more questions to help process it.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I'll be honest with you, there's only a few questions and they're simple, but they are definitely, they prime the heart.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're meant to get at the thing behind the thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Day three is change day.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is where you start to get a little more serious each week.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, what does this idea mean in your life?
Caesar Kalinowski:That the idea from that week and how would your life be different if you began to let it be changed by the gospel in that area?
Caesar Kalinowski:Day four is an action day So by now, you know in the week you've begun to let your heart be changed a little and you're understanding Okay, I see where we're going with this idea, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, but how about now your hands and feet?
Caesar Kalinowski:So action day is always about putting it into practice and it'll always be something like I think like the first week of action day is like Go outside and look across the street.
Caesar Kalinowski:You see those neighbors?
Caesar Kalinowski:Those are humans, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:They all have lives and families and problems like I wonder what they're facing today.
Caesar Kalinowski:Come on in.
Caesar Kalinowski:Let's talk about it You know, you don't go you don't go you don't talk.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's real simple stuff Yep But it moves towards some pretty profound stuff day fives your community day and that's meant to be a day where you model How your lives and community are gonna be increasingly lived out as you go through this primer but then also beyond so day fives when you get together with other members of your community and And those are the other folks who are putting this stuff into practice with you and you'll do something together and the primer will guide you through like what it is you do day six is calibration.
Caesar Kalinowski:So that's a calibration day now back on your own about 15 or 20 minutes where you'll revisit the theme of the week, but from a different angle.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then you'll get some additional things to think about and wrestle through and all that.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then seventh day of the week is sort of your, it's, we call it recreate day.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's the last day of the cycle.
Caesar Kalinowski:It includes a time of rest and reflection, kind of like it's Sabbathing, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:And the reason we call it rest and create, recreate, is because we rest in Jesus completed work.
Caesar Kalinowski:on our behalf and out of that rest, then we, we, we change and we grow and we create beauty and work.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so we, we don't want people leaving with a, Hey, what you learned this week, heavy load, it's all up to you.
Caesar Kalinowski:So each day you end up resting in like the word of God and in prayer and all that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So So you see that there's a cycle and you get through the whole, the whole, you know, week together.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:And
Heath Hollensbe:then you start it again and you're constantly regrouping together and discuss those eight weeks.
Heath Hollensbe:What are some of the topics that you'd be
Caesar Kalinowski:hitting on if you go through it together?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Real quick.
Caesar Kalinowski:Week one is what is missional?
Caesar Kalinowski:What's that even mean, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:you, but maybe some other folks in your church or small group or even leaders.
Caesar Kalinowski:Week two is what is incarnational?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And why?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like what, you know, what does it mean to be incarnational?
Caesar Kalinowski:Week three, we look at the gospel.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hugh and Matt take you deeper into like, what's the gospel actually mean, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And does it affect every area of life?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, it does.
Caesar Kalinowski:Week four, what is community?
Caesar Kalinowski:What's true biblical community?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, over and against maybe what we think it is.
Caesar Kalinowski:Week five is living it out.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like, like changing our focus from inward to outward.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Perfect.
Caesar Kalinowski:Week six is then inviting in.
Caesar Kalinowski:So like, what does it look like then?
Caesar Kalinowski:Are there people outside the church and outside your group that probably God wants to invite into the family?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:You're starting to move closer to something here, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, that's not what most small groups are about, you know, a close small group, you know, um, week seven, becoming an apprentice.
Caesar Kalinowski:Let's start some action stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now you're really doing your apprentice of Jesus.
Caesar Kalinowski:What are some of the things and ways let's try a few of the things he did with people.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then week eight is called the intuitive life.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that's all about life and the spirit and like, starting to say, okay, I have a different perspective on people and the rhythms of life and breathing out and living in and inviting people in.
Caesar Kalinowski:How can we start to let the spirit guide us in that?
Caesar Kalinowski:So we're not overwhelmed.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're not moving too fast.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're not leaving people behind.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're not freaking out.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So there you go.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's a quick snapshot of that, that tangible kingdom primer.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, uh, that's a resource they can get online.
Caesar Kalinowski:And by the way, to the publisher.
Caesar Kalinowski:They published that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, Missio.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, Missio Publishing.
Caesar Kalinowski:They've given us a cool, like, a link to where folks can go and download the first week so they can see it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Get familiar with it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, they can kind of see, okay, here's how the rhythm works and they can see it.
Caesar Kalinowski:They get the list of all the eight weeks, but they'll see here's, they'll actually see the full first week.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then they'll also, I think they're throwing in like a coupon code so that if you'd say, Hey, I'm going to try this with my church, take my church through it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or I'm gonna take a bunch of small groups through it or whatever.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, you can get a discount on them too.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're not, they're like 15, 16 bucks a piece, but then you can get a discount.
Caesar Kalinowski:on, on that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Great.
Caesar Kalinowski:And they look, like you said, they're beautiful pieces of art.
Caesar Kalinowski:I was just told that overseas.
Caesar Kalinowski:Someone's like, I've been going through this, this primer and it's like a work of art.
Caesar Kalinowski:I love it.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like every day it feeds my soul.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm like, it was meant to be.
Caesar Kalinowski:So Missio publishing is going to let you taste it, see it, touch it, and then they're going to give you a way to get it really even cheaper.
Caesar Kalinowski:So hopefully that's helped.
Caesar Kalinowski:So that is, you know, starting in the mirror.
Caesar Kalinowski:But here's how you can really start then to put a little rubber to the road, but move your heart really.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cause it's so much of it has to do with our heart response.
Caesar Kalinowski:and our heart change, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:So a lot of, a lot of discouragements and setbacks might happen along the way.
Caesar Kalinowski:Don't freak out on that.
Caesar Kalinowski:But I think that if you get through that eight weeks, you'll like get to the end and you'll go like, okay, who wants to keep living this way?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And who's in, right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then you'll have to pray and maybe listen to other podcasts episodes or there'll be, what are some next steps?
Caesar Kalinowski:But that's a killer, that's a killer way to start, and that's a killer way to baby step yourself, your family, and the people you love in your, in your small group of your church toward more incarnational, missional forms of being the church.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Heath Hollensbe:So the big three for this week, it's time to get to that, and you can get these for free.
Heath Hollensbe:These are the three kind of takeaways we want you to get from this episode.
Caesar Kalinowski:For sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:And this week's big three download will also include that special link to get the free sample week of the tangible kingdom primer in that discount code we were telling you about.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can get straight to that if you want by going to everydaydisciple.
Caesar Kalinowski:com forward slash.
Caesar Kalinowski:TK dash primer.
Caesar Kalinowski:So the letter T, the letter K dash primer, everydaydisciple.
Caesar Kalinowski:com forward slash TK primer.
Caesar Kalinowski:But as always, you can get the big three, which I'll have that link right in there for you by going to everydaydisciple.
Caesar Kalinowski:com forward slash big three.
Caesar Kalinowski:Caesar, what are the big three for this week?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Big three.
Caesar Kalinowski:Again, set it right at the top of the show.
Caesar Kalinowski:This starts with you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:This starts in the mirror.
Caesar Kalinowski:And if you're, you know, leading a family, it starts with you.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you're leading a small group.
Caesar Kalinowski:It starts with you, like get the resources necessary, start living in some new ways.
Caesar Kalinowski:You get to, um, if you are a pastor of a church, it starts with you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Your people will never go any further than you live and believe the truth of the gospel and live it out with others.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:That moves us to the second one.
Caesar Kalinowski:Invite others to join you.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you're determined, I'm going to get started, like God, I believe the mission and I'm going to get after this, invite others to join you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our faith, as Christians, as the family of God, was never meant to be lived in isolation.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it was never meant to be lived primarily once a week, kind of listening to someone else talk about it and sing about it, but in community.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, as much as God's bringing new thought, insight, conviction to you to get started, invite others to join you.
Caesar Kalinowski:especially with something like the resource we just talked about, because it's, it's actually created and designed to do that baby steps along.
Caesar Kalinowski:There's really no leadership needed other than, Hey, let's do it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Let me order these, you know, let's all pitch in, you know, or whatever.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that includes other leaders too.
Caesar Kalinowski:And a little tip here is when I use that resource, I always say, people listen, this is what it's about.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is what it's like if you're in, let's commit to really doing this for eight weeks together.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, don't, let's not do it if we're not going to do it, but if we really are, let's do it for eight weeks.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:And at the end of the eight weeks, we'll talk about it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Is this the life we want to continue living and growing in or do we want to, nah, you know what?
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm good with Sunday and I'm kind of, you know, the way we've been doing, it's fine.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you'll be surprised.
Caesar Kalinowski:Most people want to keep going because it's rich.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's awesome stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So invite others to join you.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is a life meant to be lived in community.
Caesar Kalinowski:And the third thing is, don't wait around.
Caesar Kalinowski:Stop, stop hiding behind, you know, well, my leaders don't preach this way, or I've never seen it lived or done.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so I, I'll just grouse about it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, get started.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or we're too busy.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, or we're, we're too busy.
Caesar Kalinowski:Everybody has the exact same 24 hours a day.
Caesar Kalinowski:You've heard us say this over and over on the show.
Caesar Kalinowski:Everyone does exactly what they choose to do every day.
Caesar Kalinowski:Exactly, yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, if anybody can fit it into their 24 hours, and by the way, there's probably 50, 70, 000 people have used the tangible kingdom primers, what I've been, what I've been told, like it is amazing.
Caesar Kalinowski:It is an amazingly used resource.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And more every day.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so get started.
Caesar Kalinowski:Don't hide behind.
Caesar Kalinowski:No one else do it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like we said earlier, like your, your church isn't going to forbid you from making disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you said, well, I am in a small group, but we already have curriculum where we follow, you know, we talk about whatever the pastor preached on Sunday and they hand out notes and that's what we're supposed to do.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know what?
Caesar Kalinowski:Do it on another night.
Caesar Kalinowski:Everybody can be doing this six days a week in the journal and then getting together on a different night.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you're like, well, no one will have time for that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Then go and ask for permission for eight weeks to try a little something, share the resource, show one of the primers to your, guess what it might tip, it might tip the domino for your whole church.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:But, but get started right away.
Caesar Kalinowski:Don't wait.
Caesar Kalinowski:Check it out at least.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's great.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and Missio has made it super easy for Missio Publishing.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can just download the first week, look at it, and then if you want to even get a few, you get a discount.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, it's great, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So yeah, man, please.
Caesar Kalinowski:And like I said earlier, you can get that sample week and discount code for the TK Primer by going to everydaydisciple.
Caesar Kalinowski:com forward slash TK dash primer.
Caesar Kalinowski:Alright, thanks Heath and thanks to all of you for joining us today.
Caesar Kalinowski:Please share this episode with someone you love and know that they're working to shift their people or groups to more incarnational and missional forms of being church.
Caesar Kalinowski:Bless them and bless us by sharing the love.
Caesar Kalinowski:I hope you'll join us again next week as we continue to dive deep into discipleship and mission as a lifestyle.
Caesar Kalinowski:We'll be here, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:I'll talk to you soon.
Heath Hollensbe:Thanks for joining us today.
Heath Hollensbe:For more information on this show and to get loads of free discipleship resources, visit everyday disciple.com and remember, you really can live with the spiritual freedom and relational peace that Jesus promised every day.