How to Revive Your Missional Community
Feeling like your church small group or missional community is a bit of a dud, lately? They can oftentimes get stuck as just a weekly meeting and never really become the intentional, life-on-life, daily experience they are meant to be. (And can be.)
In this episode of the Everyday Disciple Podcast, we talk about how to revive your group and breathe new life into things. You really can experience your faith in daily community with others the way Jesus did!
NOTE: In our last episode, Caesar started telling the story of how he and his wife Tina, and some of their friends, first tried out this “missional community” stuff. And how it failed pretty miserably. If you missed that episode, pause this one and go back and listen to this episode now first, and then come back and pick up the story here…
[SPOILER ALERT] Things got better!
In This Episode You’ll Learn:
- How to establish predictable patterns in the life of your community
- How Jesus balanced his time and priorities as he lived with his disciples
- Ways to have a deeper connection with God and the gospel in your group
- How to start living much more like a family rather than just a mid-week meeting
Remember, life in community is a journey. A lifestyle is the goal–the destination. Begin where you are at, or begin again. This is the life you were created by God to live!
We want you to have the tools, confidence and encouragement you need to have a healthy family and vibrant life in missional community. A lifestyle of discipleship and mission. Check out a rare opportunity to join Caesar and Tina to learn what this really looks like, and begin for yourself to live and replicate this missional lifestyle.
Each week the Big 3 will give you immediate action steps to get you started.
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Links and Resources Mentioned in This Episode:
Coaching with Caesar and Tina in discipleship and missional living.
Discipleship and Missional Resources
Transcript
So thing you wanna get to if your Missional Community is kind of sucking or stalled, or you're just not stoked about it, thing you wanna get to or get back to our, what I call predictable patterns.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Those few key rhythms in your community life that everyone knows that you'll for sure be doing together at the same time and in the same manner each week.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, and this goes beyond just.
Caesar Kalinowski:All weekly meeting, but you know, I'm talking about getting into a rhythm of predictable patterns.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just think about like with your own family and kids.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:How many things do you do?
Caesar Kalinowski:And you do 'em either daily or weekly.
Caesar Kalinowski:Some of 'em are necessary.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like paying the bills or like, you know, doing the chores or you know, making the bed or whatever.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, and some of 'em are just fun, but we do 'em every week.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So what are.
Caesar Kalinowski:What are the predictable patterns that you're getting to?
Caesar Kalinowski:So I wanna suggest you go back to basics here and think up in and out.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:This might not be brand new to people, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:But they might have heard this before.
Caesar Kalinowski:Stick with me.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus maintained balance and priority in his life.
Caesar Kalinowski:By, I think, perfectly integrating these three relational dynamics up in and out.
Heath Hollensbe:Welcome to the Everyday Disciple Podcast, where you'll learn how to live with greater intentionality and an integrated faith.
Heath Hollensbe:That naturally fits into every area of life.
Heath Hollensbe:In other words, discipleship as a lifestyle.
Heath Hollensbe:This is the stuff your parents, pastors and seminary professors probably forgot to tell you.
Heath Hollensbe:And now here's your host, Caesar.
Heath Hollensbe:Kalinowski.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey, he, Hey ma'am, you were looking super tan, my friend.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just get back from the beach like a minute ago or what?
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't like people keep saying cutting that grass every day.
Caesar Kalinowski:Father-in-law, years ago, like.
Caesar Kalinowski:Literally he cut his grass like every other day just cuz he didn't like being around people.
Caesar Kalinowski:So if anybody was around the house, he's like, I gotta cut the grass, fire blow out there and like you just cut it.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like down to the dirt, you know, like Yeah, he's super tan.
Caesar Kalinowski:He had a wicked good tan.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Super wicked.
Caesar Kalinowski:Good tan.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:People are always like, you look so tan, what did you do?
Heath Hollensbe:And I was like, I,
Caesar Kalinowski:my dad was that way and my daughter Christin that way.
Caesar Kalinowski:She goes outside, like get the mail a couple days in the spring, boom tan all summer, like done.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like,
Heath Hollensbe:hey, so we're talking uh, this week it's gonna be fun cuz it's actually playing.
Heath Hollensbe:We're right in the middle of this wedged, kind of micro three week thing on Missional communities.
Heath Hollensbe:And last week we talked about a lifestyle of discipleship.
Heath Hollensbe:And this week we're continuing that with, uh, how to restart or jumpstart your Missional, Community or small group.
Heath Hollensbe:Next week we're talking about, um, how to have kids.
Heath Hollensbe:We'll talk about that in here in a minute.
Heath Hollensbe:How to have kids now, how to have kids active
Caesar Kalinowski:in your Missional Community.
Caesar Kalinowski:There you go.
Caesar Kalinowski:How you have a
Heath Hollensbe:baby.
Heath Hollensbe:So a lot of small groups or Missional communities might feel stuck in a rut that they need some new life.
Heath Hollensbe:Breathe into them.
Heath Hollensbe:Uh, they're, they're not always great.
Heath Hollensbe:I've been in many that weren't.
Heath Hollensbe:Mm-hmm.
Heath Hollensbe:And oftentimes they just kinda get stuck in a, as a weekly meeting and nothing really ever becomes super intentional about the lifestyle that, that we were trying to engage in initially.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:Um, and so you last week were talking a little bit about your story.
Heath Hollensbe:And,
Caesar Kalinowski:uh, yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And how Tina and I and our friends first tried that same thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:We tried to start our quote Missional Community after hearing about it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So if you missed that episode,
Heath Hollensbe:but it failed and we talked about, so if you missed that, go back now.
Heath Hollensbe:Cause it's actually gonna be really important as we continue on the next couple weeks.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then come back and pick the story up here.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, good news from that story though, and I'll tell you a little bit about it, a little bit more about a minute, is that the life that my family now lives.
Caesar Kalinowski:In community with others and we have for years is so rich and rewarding.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Way different than what you Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's just amazing and you know, and our kids are involved in it and they're adults now.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I, I wanna, I wanna tell our listeners this, I do almost anything to help them have the same kind of, Everyday life experience of their Christian faith too.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:I really, and I want this for them and their spouse.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, if you're listening and you're married, we, if you got kids, I want it for your kids.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cuz I'm telling you like there's some horrifying uh, statistics out there about kids raised in Christian homes and chucking their faith.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, I want it for your small group.
Caesar Kalinowski:I want it for your Missional.
Caesar Kalinowski:Community.
Caesar Kalinowski:I want it for your whole church.
Caesar Kalinowski:I really do.
Caesar Kalinowski:And your neighborhood and others, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, so it's an expounding Gospel, like, like, yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Go back and here's the beginning of the story.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like it didn't start Good.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm gonna tell you a little more of that today because it happened and the way we get to live now, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:And I, and I know.
Caesar Kalinowski:I know it's not always the case or rarely the case.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that's, that's awesome.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:For people.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that's why today we wanna look at ways to jumpstart, kickstart, or maybe even resurrect your mi, Missional, Community or small groups.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So how
Heath Hollensbe:would we go about resurrecting things or even getting.
Heath Hollensbe:Back on track if currently we're not really digging the level of community engagement that we have in our small group, Missional, Community, or maybe it just seems stale, or maybe we just suck at this.
Heath Hollensbe:Like we're not very good.
Heath Hollensbe:You just suck at this.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:How, how would we resurrect things?
Caesar Kalinowski:What's a good start?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well first off, don't beat yourself up.
Caesar Kalinowski:These, these things happen to all of us and even I've been in vibrant Missional communities that for one reason or another they kind of fizzled.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, keep people moved away.
Caesar Kalinowski:Somebody got in a fight and they wouldn't let the Gospel get in there and sort that out relationally.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, whatever, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So they can happen.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, our best intentions don't always, uh, stay that intentional, like the stuff of life can often derail everything.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just wanna say, you know, don't beat yourself up.
Caesar Kalinowski:Pick yourself up and remember that you're deeply loved by God and begin again.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Every journey is like a series of a thousand small, but in this case, intentional steps, it won't happen accidentally.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're gonna give you some tips today.
Caesar Kalinowski:So thing you wanna get to if your Missional Community is kind of sucking or stalled, or you're just not stoked about it, thing you wanna get to or get back to are what I call predictable patterns, okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Those few key rhythms in your community life that everyone knows that you'll for sure be doing together at the same time and in the same manner each week.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, and this goes beyond just all weekly meeting, but you know, I'm talking about getting into a rhythm of predictable patterns.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just think about like with your own family and kids.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:How many things do you do?
Caesar Kalinowski:And you do 'em either daily or weekly.
Caesar Kalinowski:Some of 'em are necessary.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like paying the bills or like, you know, doing the chores or, you know, making the bed or whatever.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, and some of 'em are just fun, but we do 'em every week.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So what are, what are the predictable patterns that you're getting to?
Caesar Kalinowski:So I wanna suggest you go back to basics here and think up in.
Caesar Kalinowski:And out.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, this might not be brand new to people Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:But they might have heard this before.
Caesar Kalinowski:Stick with me.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus maintained balance and priority in his life.
Caesar Kalinowski:By, I think, perfectly integrating these three relational dynamics up in and out.
Caesar Kalinowski:And like I said, you may have already heard this, it's kind of simple, but stick with me.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm gonna unpack it in a little bit of a different way, and then a little later I'm gonna lay a pretty cool resource on folks that'll really help 'em stimulate their thinking on this.
Caesar Kalinowski:So sweet.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, First was, you know, up time with his father.
Caesar Kalinowski:That was Jesus' upward relationship.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and then he spent time with those.
Caesar Kalinowski:He was discipling and doing life with in close community, and those were his inward relationships.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's where his lifestyle apprenticeship happened and then time with those outside of his close circle.
Caesar Kalinowski:Those were his outward relationships and you can pretty quickly, I'm not gonna like do a Bible study here in of all the passages of Jesus life and the gospels, but you can kind of see that right time with dad, time with those in his community.
Caesar Kalinowski:And in time with those who are kind of leaning in, you know, listening and paying attention, kind of follow 'em around, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And I wanna suggest to jumpstart or restart your, your community, that you pick one new predictable pattern or rhythm and you begin to do that together in community, in each of the categories.
Caesar Kalinowski:So pick one up.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Kind of activity like that, you're gonna do it like this is part of how we're gonna connect to dad, connect to the Gospel, deeply, all that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:One in rhythm that you're gonna have minimally just, you know, but this is how you get started.
Caesar Kalinowski:You don't pick a hundred things.
Caesar Kalinowski:You pick one up, one in and then one outward.
Caesar Kalinowski:And this is where a lot of people fall down.
Caesar Kalinowski:They don't pick the outward.
Caesar Kalinowski:They go like, all right, we're gonna get back together and we're gonna start praying and studying the Bible, and I guess we're gonna go ahead and have a meal.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:But we're gonna do it all at the same night.
Caesar Kalinowski:No, these are different rhythms by the way.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey, you can't combine 'em all in one day.
Caesar Kalinowski:Don't try to there again, don't try to have the clown car we've talked about before, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or one event, one vehicle is just packed with everything and you call it a family life.
Caesar Kalinowski:No.
Caesar Kalinowski:Mm-hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:What I'm talking about here is picking an upward, inward, and outward predictable
Heath Hollensbe:pattern.
Heath Hollensbe:So what would you give us as a few suggestions for each of these, the up in and out and what that might look like for us?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, let me give you a few to get you started in each category and then.
Caesar Kalinowski:In a little bit.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'll, I'll give an address of how people can download my free up in out matrix.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:It'll give 'em a ton of other ideas, okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, it's, it's, it's too deep to go over in the podcast, but sure, it's free.
Caesar Kalinowski:They can get it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:So stay tuned.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'll tell you what.
Caesar Kalinowski:So here, here's some ideas for up, okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:And that's your rhythm of connecting deeper to God in the Gospel.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, one, uh, you want to.
Caesar Kalinowski:Find something to grow in your gospel fluency together, like by going through like something like the Gospel primer.
Caesar Kalinowski:Great.
Caesar Kalinowski:Some of you know what that is.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's great.
Caesar Kalinowski:So if you don't, you can go to missio publishing.com.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, I wrote it so it's a plug.
Caesar Kalinowski:But I mean, tell you, it's great.
Caesar Kalinowski:It really is great.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's great.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you wanna connect deeper to the Gospel in God's heart, go like, set that and go like, that's our predictable pattern for at least eight weeks.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that'll help connect you deeply with God's heart in every area of life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here's another idea.
Caesar Kalinowski:Spend time together listening to God.
Caesar Kalinowski:Not asking him to do a bunch of stuff for you, but actually listening for his voice.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:We've done this in communities.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like, Hey, tonight we're not gonna, you know, God knows our needs, so we could tell him, but he already knows him today.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're gonna listen and see what he wants to say.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like what if you started doing that in rhythm?
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, predictably we do it.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's how what we do every week, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, here's another one.
Caesar Kalinowski:Read and discuss one narrative from scripture together, and then ask, what did we learn about God?
Caesar Kalinowski:What might he be trying to say to us in his story?
Caesar Kalinowski:And then what are we gonna do about that this week?
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now that's simple.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I, I bet other people have heard of that.
Caesar Kalinowski:But if that was a predictable pattern.
Caesar Kalinowski:So you get together, you read a narrative.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:A narrative key.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then ask, what do we learn about God?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like his character?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:What might he be saying to us as a family here, this community, and then what are we gonna do about it this week?
Heath Hollensbe:And the beautiful thing is it actually ties in really well with what we talked about last week of this is not just getting together and reading Ephesians together and trying to find, this is actually us fleshing out.
Heath Hollensbe:That's right.
Heath Hollensbe:Seeing what
Caesar Kalinowski:God looks like.
Caesar Kalinowski:Remember, these are basic steps to recharge or restart a community.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So I'm not, I'm not blowing anybody's mind here, but if, but if your thing is fizzled and it's just kind of become, you know, a dud or it's just flat, I'm telling you these things.
Caesar Kalinowski:Work.
Caesar Kalinowski:Pick, I'm not, I'm not saying do all three of these.
Caesar Kalinowski:You could, but pick one.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And make it a predictable pattern.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:What about the in?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, good.
Caesar Kalinowski:In, in rhythm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Is that living more like a family in your Missional?
Caesar Kalinowski:Community.
Caesar Kalinowski:So think family rhythms.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like what do you do with your family, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So, um, here's, here's a suggestion.
Caesar Kalinowski:Go through the story of God or the story formed way together.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:People can go to my website at Caesar Kalinowski dot com and go to resources, all kinds of story training stuff there.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:Take time to really get to know each other's stories.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then look for unbelief.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, in the Gospel, in, in, when people tell their stories, look where the un hidden unbelief is.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So imagine if you said, you know what?
Caesar Kalinowski:Every week when we get together, um, we're gonna have a meal and we're gonna, that's another one of the suggestions.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, um, one of us is gonna tell their story.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, so simple, but so many people.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, like, when's like, do you know everybody's story?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, no, he's now, he's from Chicago.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're really nice.
Caesar Kalinowski:He works over here.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like, those are facts.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's not a stolen, that's not their story.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, so here's another one.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, Predictable pattern in community, right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Share the Lord's Supper or communion as a community together.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like maybe add that as your first rhythm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, we're gonna start doing that.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's cool.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you get to speak truth and love.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm not, you know, like, don't go out and try.
Caesar Kalinowski:How do I find the little plastic cup and the wave thing?
Caesar Kalinowski:You know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, like do it, like really do it and speak truth and love to each other in that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here's another suggestion.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, have family dinner night as a community.
Caesar Kalinowski:No big agenda other than to be.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just to be together.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So don't say, well, we have to jam in this.
Caesar Kalinowski:We have to jam in that.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like, let it go.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like maybe a prayer request comes up, or maybe something does, but like maybe that's the end rhythm you need.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like you've been, we've just been kind of being in a small group and we've studied the Bible together, but it's kind of flat and no one comes hardly every other time.
Caesar Kalinowski:Start having a meal together.
Caesar Kalinowski:Maybe that's your family dinner night and call it that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah, that's pretty fun.
Heath Hollensbe:We actually do, uh, something kind of similar.
Heath Hollensbe:It's Tuesday night at Papa Murphy's.
Heath Hollensbe:You get large pizzas for 10 bucks and it's fun because everyone brings a pizza that needs to be cooked, so you ah, so you actually have 30 minutes waiting around as food's being prepared.
Heath Hollensbe:It's not this agenda jumping into a meal,
Caesar Kalinowski:but it's all that's super easy too, super cheap.
Caesar Kalinowski:No one has to feel like, I don't know how to cook.
Caesar Kalinowski:Ah, yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's way better than I am at
Heath Hollensbe:this.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:So there you go.
Heath Hollensbe:Papa Murphy's on Tuesdays.
Caesar Kalinowski:Great.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, now the out.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, so that's the out rhythm is building relationships with those that are outside of your Missional Community, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Outside of your immediate Oikos family there, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So here's, here's a suggestion.
Caesar Kalinowski:Regularly frequent the same few restaurants or pubs or cafes and parks.
Caesar Kalinowski:So is to build familiarity in new relationships.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like pick a day or a night of the week and do it in a predictable pattern, huh?
Caesar Kalinowski:I was in Missional, Community, um, a few years back and part of Tacoma, and we literally, we said, okay, this one night of the week, we are going to eat or have, you know, beer or whatever at one of these three places.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's it.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're just gonna pick three and we're gonna frequent 'em, and then we're gonna go the same night because it's the same staff then, and a lot of people, that's their night off.
Caesar Kalinowski:So it's a predictable pattern.
Caesar Kalinowski:You get to know everybody this way.
Caesar Kalinowski:And here's a little side tip, a little bonus tip I'm gonna throw in there.
Caesar Kalinowski:Be nice, ask good questions.
Caesar Kalinowski:Be good listener.
Caesar Kalinowski:Tip like crazy.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And buy around once in a while and you'll know everybody in there and they'll love you and they'll hope you're coming back every Wednesday or whatever.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Intentionally
Heath Hollensbe:work on memorizing the names of your servers so it's not like, I forget your name all the
Caesar Kalinowski:time.
Caesar Kalinowski:I, I put it in my phone cause I suck.
Caesar Kalinowski:Me too.
Caesar Kalinowski:My phone.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're like, man, you got a good memory.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm like, in my phone.
Caesar Kalinowski:I do.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:I stuck
Heath Hollensbe:that stuff up and I go, Hey, last, you know, two weeks ago he had mentioned like, something's going on with your dad.
Heath Hollensbe:What happened there?
Caesar Kalinowski:Exactly.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's so simple.
Caesar Kalinowski:So predictable pattern, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Regularly frequent the same few places.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here's another, here's another out suggestion.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, regularly serve needs as a community out in your neighborhood or city.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like maybe adopt a park or lo local school grounds or whatever, but like, don't make it like hours away.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like try to do it locally.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Because let's see, relationally then those, those relationships are gonna be locally connected to that stuff, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And here's, here's another suggestion for out host an in, even though it's at your house.
Caesar Kalinowski:Host an open table each night.
Caesar Kalinowski:Were anyone and everyone's invited to a meal.
Caesar Kalinowski:No big agenda.
Caesar Kalinowski:Doesn't have to be fancy food.
Caesar Kalinowski:I love the pizza idea.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, but just build relationships and trust.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And the reason that's an out thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Even though you might be doing it with your Missional Community, they might not all make it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So that's the thing about some of these, it's like, like family life, you don't, we're not taking attendance.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:But if you go like, you know, every Thursday we host an open table and the neighborhood knows it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And people kind of rolling and roll out.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's kind of getting bigger and growing and trust me, I know we've done this.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, that would be a great out rhythm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just, you know, and Tina, I'll do that.
Caesar Kalinowski:We'll say like, you know what, what, what night of the week fits our schedule the best again, the next season of life?
Caesar Kalinowski:And then, you know what, guess what?
Caesar Kalinowski:Come winter.
Caesar Kalinowski:We might have to change it and tell the neighborhood, you know, what Thursday is now Saturday morning for breakfast, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just cuz we got something going on and it's okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:See, but it's still, you make it a predictable pattern.
Caesar Kalinowski:So remember, you're looking to start doing these things in predictable patterns, not one-offs.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and you may notice something here, you can't do even these three simple rhythms all on one night of the week.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, that's good.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:A Missional Community is a family and you can never do healthy, meaningful, family life together for just a couple hours one night per week and try to jam it all in.
Caesar Kalinowski:So don't try to just kind of die to that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Pick one up, one in, one out rhythm.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're probably gonna have to happen on different times of the week.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's great.
Caesar Kalinowski:Not everybody might make 'em, but if you do 'em predictably Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:People start to go, oh, I know.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know what's going on right now.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're Yeah, we're doing that.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Drive-by.
Heath Hollensbe:Yep.
Heath Hollensbe:Drive-by drinks, you know, in the neighborhood, our neighborhood has.
Heath Hollensbe:That's what I was gonna, yeah, I was gonna say, call
Caesar Kalinowski:driveway
Heath Hollensbe:happy hour.
Heath Hollensbe:What's the concept?
Heath Hollensbe:It's such a, you just, you said it to me last day.
Heath Hollensbe:It's
Caesar Kalinowski:called Driveway happy hour, which we, you know, we've always done happy hours, like when we move to new places.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:We get here, they're already doing it.
Caesar Kalinowski:They beat us to the punch.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we go on our neighborhood Facebook page and you just go, Hey, this Friday or whatever Wednesday driveway, happy hour, and then, I don't know why they do it in the driveway, but you know, and then people have those little white pop-up tents or something.
Caesar Kalinowski:I think somebody neighborhood has one.
Caesar Kalinowski:Everybody just borrows it, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then they set up a table and drinks and all their lawn chairs.
Caesar Kalinowski:People walk up with lawn chairs and it's just, it's nuts.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's
Heath Hollensbe:easy.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:Some guys just, you know, has to get home, so he swings by and grabs a drink and head home.
Heath Hollensbe:But it's building that community.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah, exactly.
Heath Hollensbe:It's, it's nothing.
Heath Hollensbe:It's so fun, man.
Heath Hollensbe:So this is stuff that is like, If you actually gave some intentionality.
Heath Hollensbe:It's not rocket scientist or Holy
Caesar Kalinowski:cow.
Caesar Kalinowski:No.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm not blowing anybody's mind here with like, who thought of these things.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, no.
Heath Hollensbe:Just simple ways to get started and if you will, stick with them over time, these new rhythms and relationships begin to form and you find yourself in a whole new season and you're actually growing deeper with people.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Than you've ever done before.
Caesar Kalinowski:Remember, this is a restart thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:This might, this is not a bad way to start.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:But it's, but it's a killer restart as well.
Caesar Kalinowski:Absolutely.
Heath Hollensbe:So you said, uh, That you would tell us a bit more about your story and kind of pick up where things left off in our last episode.
Heath Hollensbe:Will, will you tell us more?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:It didn't leave off well.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Was it cliffhanger?
Caesar Kalinowski:We tried and it failed.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Thanks for tuning in.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, well, I'm gonna go back a little bit.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:When, when Tina and I were young parents, we like, like I said, like a lot of Christians, we pretty much lived a Sunday to Sunday experience of our faith.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it was great and we loved our church and, and I'm not saying we didn't learn stuff and great.
Caesar Kalinowski:The problem was that over time kind of, and as life got busier and more kids and work, cuz we always ran our own businesses and was, you know, there's always more to do.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, um, started feeling like being a Christian was primarily about sin management and behavioral modification.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it wasn't drawn us closer to God.
Caesar Kalinowski:In fact, it was causing doubts and a feeling of uncertainty about who God was not, not like we didn't believe in him, you know, but like what does he really want from our lives?
Caesar Kalinowski:Is it just this Sunday attendance and I guess I'm waiting for heaven?
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, you know.
Caesar Kalinowski:No.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and, and our Christian faith outside the church building was pretty much just left up to Tina and I to figure out on our own.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we, you know, we take a bit of this sermon and a piece from that book and maybe we'd go to a seminar or something and another church or a weekend thing and we just kinda had to try to bolt it all together.
Caesar Kalinowski:And to be honest with you, we're starting to drown.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:And because of this, Feeling that way.
Caesar Kalinowski:It was, it was getting harder and harder to wanna invite our friends into this Christian life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cause like, what am I gonna tell 'em?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, it's kind of, you know, kind of sucks.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't know.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, we're not sure what we're doing, but we like church, you know, it's like later, like, I don't, you know, And, and it was getting harder for me to insist on my own family go to church every weekend.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I found it harder and harder to share my faith and engage in any kind of meaningful spiritual conversations.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so I, I just didn't very much.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And guess what?
Caesar Kalinowski:Some of that was even like I'm a pastor.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, at some, at one point, you know, and um, and that's when we started that first Missional Community group experiment that I told you about in the last episode.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, we were just feeling like we have to.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:But darn it, if that didn't work either.
Caesar Kalinowski:But by his grace, God ended up leading Tina and I into an experience of being the church.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Instead of just going to church.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and we joined a group of friends that started to like read through the gospels and like with new eyes and studied the book of Acts, and we decided that we believed that we really get to live that way too.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like really it's, I mean, it's as simple and corny that sound as we start going, like, look how they live in the book of Acts.
Caesar Kalinowski:Look how Jesus hung out all the time.
Caesar Kalinowski:And they, we could do that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and you know, actually that group of friends grew into what became Soma communities.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we were in each other's lives daily and we loved it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like it wasn't too much.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know what I mean?
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like we just, and guess what?
Caesar Kalinowski:God like reprioritized our hearts cuz we wanted this lifestyle.
Caesar Kalinowski:We wanted it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:We didn't, we didn't, we weren't happy.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like I said, we were drowning with the Sunday to Sunday work real hard, Sunday work real hard, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you know, we were in each other's lives.
Caesar Kalinowski:We shared life on life experience of our faith.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, the truth was spoken in love and the Gospel started touching every part of life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Not just like, I'm glad I'm going to heaven, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and we had each other's backs.
Caesar Kalinowski:Big time.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's cool.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we used to say like, Hey, we either all make it or we're all going to, you know, fail like financially or something.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, so-and-so lost his job.
Caesar Kalinowski:Doesn't matter.
Caesar Kalinowski:We all make it or none of us make it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, and it turns out that what Jesus promised us was true, and it was available to us too, not just those Bible people.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:On Earth as it is in heaven.
Caesar Kalinowski:Remember he said that, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And what we developed along the way, and I kind of, you know, I tipped my hand at this last week, was a unique combination of, of like innovative ideas and teaching and heart transformation and like sort of immersive life on life experiences.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:That created what I now recognize was an integrated lifestyle apprenticeship, and that's how we started to live.
Caesar Kalinowski:But it's also how we started to pass it on.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:We didn't say like, wow, we're living this way.
Caesar Kalinowski:Go read this.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:It was like it became integrated, like them in our life, us and theirs.
Caesar Kalinowski:So even if they were not yet believers, we began to integrate them into a lifestyle of discipleship.
Caesar Kalinowski:Walk in the ways of Jesus, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:So they become set free.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what Jesus said.
Caesar Kalinowski:And.
Caesar Kalinowski:That was pretty rare.
Caesar Kalinowski:But like I said, that's what Jesus did with his disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:And guess what?
Caesar Kalinowski:It works.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now it doesn't work if you don't give time to it and it doesn't work.
Caesar Kalinowski:If your priorities are still everything else, you won't fit this in cuz it's lifestyle.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's not just sermons or classroom teaching, but it's learning together with other mature disciples that have mastered a lifestyle of discipleship.
Caesar Kalinowski:Mission and hearts are changed and that's key, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Not just behavior and activity.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we kind of discovered a new language.
Caesar Kalinowski:Eventually, you know, you probably didn't hear that on the podcast.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we talk about things with a little bit different, you know, words and language and, and how to live an integrated life where it all kind of fit naturally.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we didn't, weren't kind of putting on, hey, it's time to witness that guy, you know, or it's time to do Disciple.
Caesar Kalinowski:Are we doing discipleship now?
Caesar Kalinowski:It was kind of all integrated and there was daily, weekly encouragement, you know, from each other.
Caesar Kalinowski:It was just, like I said, it was life on life and.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and some of the more seasoned saints, they would open up the lid to their marriages, to us.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:And their budget.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like they'd show their budget and they'd tell us about their parenting fails and what went well.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we'd ask their kids and they got to see ours.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, he has like real life happening.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, you kneel down next to a guy when he is putting his son to bed and he's praying with him and he's having to bring up kind of a weird thing of the day, but it's all grace.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then he like kisses him goodnight.
Caesar Kalinowski:I love you buddy.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so does Jesus.
Caesar Kalinowski:And they pray together.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's like, who shows you that stuff?
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's, that's, you know, that's what I'm talking about.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and so, you know, you know what else was crazy?
Caesar Kalinowski:We discovered that this lifestyle, uh, was actually really not only awesome for us Christians, but it was really attractive to our not yet leaving friends.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:It really was.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it was, and there again, maybe that's part of why we adopted some new language along the way.
Caesar Kalinowski:We tried to like de Christianitize de-churchify the wording, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:But turns out good news is actually good news.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sometimes it's in jeans and sneakers over a beer.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:But it's still good news if it's good news, and that's why we continue to offer the coaching and training that we do.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mentioned this in the last episode, but in just a few weeks.
Caesar Kalinowski:We'll begin working with a dozen or so new couples who are dedicated Disciple makers and who join us in our everyday Disciple makers coaching experience.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, without everyday Disciple framework, you'll find clarity on what discipleship really is and how to Disciple others to maturity so it's not just hanging out week to week or even if you start getting to do that a lot and being the nicest people in the neighborhood, but it really is a full framework.
Caesar Kalinowski:So you're gonna help.
Caesar Kalinowski:Build disciples that are mature in making more disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:We'll teach you exactly what to do and how to do it with confidence to keep moving forward at a sustainable pace, and we'll help you find a work ministry family life balance while making discipleship part of your normal life.
Caesar Kalinowski:All the stuff we talk about here on the podcast, if you feel like your current Disciple making process or lack thereof is not producing transformation and freedom and maturity in your people.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our proven discipleship framework will change that for you.
Caesar Kalinowski:We've helped thousands of people in every imaginable context and age and stage of life, and like we've said, they're finding great spiritual freedom as they are released from a discipleship model, based on behavioral modification and sin management.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're seeing relationships healed.
Caesar Kalinowski:That have been broken sometimes for years and years, and all of this flows out of a deeper understanding of the Gospel and a growing gospel fluency.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what we wanna help you get and grab hold of, make part of your family, and see that embedded deeply in your church family and in your community.
Caesar Kalinowski:We start off by having a one-on-one meeting with you on Zoom to get to know your story, your family rhythms, and your goals for Disciple making, and then we craft a personal Disciple making roadmap just for you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Perhaps even another roadmap for implementing this all within your church.
Caesar Kalinowski:So if you're leading lots of small groups or you're trying to roll this out church wide, then we're gonna create a roadmap for that as well.
Caesar Kalinowski:So you'll never wonder what's next or what you should be doing.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's all spilled out step by step, and it comes with the training and equipping to help you master each of the steps and have the resources you need.
Caesar Kalinowski:Along the way, we'll help expose hidden obstacles to effective Disciple making that may have hindered you in the past.
Caesar Kalinowski:When it's time, we'll help you pass on everything you've learned and experience to others.
Caesar Kalinowski:Multiplying new leaders and new communities of Disciple makers.
Caesar Kalinowski:So in the coaching along with your spouse, if you're married together with other serious Disciple makers, we'll meet two times per month online for a time of encouragement and expert coaching and q and a.
Caesar Kalinowski:We'll ensure you're continuing to make progress consistently.
Caesar Kalinowski:And with confidence, we've designed our everyday Disciple makers coaching to give you the tools, framework, and encouragement to lead your family, church or community into natural everyday discipleship rhythms as you make more disciples of Jesus.
Caesar Kalinowski:So if you're serious about making disciples in a way that naturally fits your life and rhythms with family and friends, you know the way Jesus did it, then I really think this coaching experience is for you.
Caesar Kalinowski:To get started, let's set up a discovery call together this week to see if this is a good fit for you and help you get started.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just go to everyday Disciple dot com slash discovery.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's everyday Disciple dot com slash discovery and we'll get y'all set up and I can't wait to meet you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, thanks for letting me talk a bit about that Heath.
Caesar Kalinowski:Time to wrap up.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, so we
Heath Hollensbe:gotta wrap things up, but we always do the big three, which is the three things that we want people to, to, uh, know and believe that they can actually use to get started on immediately.
Caesar Kalinowski:So if nothing else, you don't wanna miss these.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you can get a printable PDF of this week's big three as a free download so you can discuss it with others or be reminded of all this you just go to everyday Disciple dot com slash big three everyday Disciple dot com slash b I g, the number three.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, here are the big three for this week.
Caesar Kalinowski:Number one, know that this life and community is a journey, and that the lifestyle we're talking about here is the goal.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's the destination.
Caesar Kalinowski:So begin where you're at or begin again if you have to.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is the life that God created you to live.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:So like just a week to week experience of your faith is not what Jesus came.
Caesar Kalinowski:And died to give you, yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So know that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Second, believe that God wants you to have this type of an intentional lifestyle.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus lived the best possible life and any human ever lived.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then he taught his disciples to live this way, and he sent them out to do the same thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:And now he invites us into that same lifestyle.
Caesar Kalinowski:How fun.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like we get to, yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and like, Jesus, I may have the best life, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So, and number three, unless you're a pretty rare Christian, like probably less than 1%.
Caesar Kalinowski:That I've met.
Caesar Kalinowski:You probably don't have the tools and skills to naturally make disciples and help people come to the Lord and experience true Christian community in everyday life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's just not being taught at most churches.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sorry, I'm not trying to, you know, poke anybody that's not your fault.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, but it doesn't have to stay that way.
Caesar Kalinowski:Find and engaging, true integrated apprenticeship with those that have gone before you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So like I said, you come and join us.
Caesar Kalinowski:I would love it.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'd be honored to have you at home.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:And spend, you know, it's a journey.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's a long, it's a journey for months together.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, not living here for months, but you know, but we'll kick you out.
Caesar Kalinowski:But there's other things too, so like, don't just stay where you're at.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like believe that God has this life for you and you know, don't just keep hoping for that miracle, you know, just get after it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:You
Heath Hollensbe:know, it's one of those things I just feel the spirit is saying, like it's that, it's the, the apprenticeship is the multiplication versus the addition.
Heath Hollensbe:Right?
Heath Hollensbe:If the end means of our discipleship is that we know more scripture and it ends with us, we failed.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:It has to continue on.
Heath Hollensbe:So how are we teaching?
Heath Hollensbe:Like, not how are we becoming disciples, but how are we also, while we're becoming disciples living in community with others.
Heath Hollensbe:And that it's expounding and multiplying to even other people
Caesar Kalinowski:becoming disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:By the way, the brilliance of Jesus, like go make disciples was you wanna become like Jesus.
Caesar Kalinowski:Go make some disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Because your whole heart's gonna get sanded on and you know, it's just crazy, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's cool.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's the only way.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, it's the only way.
Caesar Kalinowski:Folks don't wanna miss the next episode cuz we're gonna be kind of continuing in this little mini.
Caesar Kalinowski:Three series and we're gonna talk about what to do with your kids.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:In Missional Community lifestyle.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:We'll give you a ton of great ideas, and I'm gonna push your thinking a little bit on this too.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'll talk to you soon.
Heath Hollensbe:Thanks for joining us today.
Heath Hollensbe:For more information on this show and to get loads of free discipleship resources, visit everyday Disciple dot com and remember, you really can live with the spiritual freedom and relational peace that Jesus promised every day.