When Money Owns Your Heart
Money is never just about money. Jesus talked about it more than almost anything else because He knew it reveals where our hearts truly rest.
This week on the Everyday Disciple Podcast, we look at how our understanding of the gospel shapes the way we view and use money—and how generosity naturally flows from grace, not guilt. We’ll explore how Jesus’ words invite us to see money not as a measure of success, but as a mirror of what we treasure most.
You’ll also discover how to find lasting security in God’s provision and freedom from the anxiety that money so often brings.
In This Episode, You’ll Learn:
- Why Jesus connected money with the desires of our hearts
- How money can distort our sense of significance and security
- What “gospel tipping” is and why generosity reorders your heart
- A surprising perspective on retirement and inheritance
From this episode:
“All of us can break free from our slavery and attachments to money by trusting and treasuring Jesus, who was willing to pay the ultimate price. His generosity and sacrifice guarantee our significance and security–forever!”
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Transcript
Are you living as a conduit or a barrel?
Caesar Kalinowski:A conduit.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like a pipe.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like I grew up in Illinois where electrical wires run through a conduit.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Conduit.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, but anything a conduit's, the way you channel one thing from one place to another, right.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's how you get that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's something that water or electricity, or any other supply is routed from one place to another, a barrel.
Caesar Kalinowski:Everybody knows what a barrel is.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, like a big wooden barrel, or it could be a metal barrel or whatever, 55 gallon drum kind of thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, is for storing up resources for holding onto them for later use.
Caesar Kalinowski:So back to the question, are you living in light of finances and resources that God's pouring into your life?
Caesar Kalinowski:Are you living like a conduit or a barrel?
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, it's a convicting question, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:God is looking for conduits of his grace and generosity.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's not looking for barrels to store those things in coveting our things and acting as if they're like our own source of income and supply, and it's my money and my time and so on.
Caesar Kalinowski:It shows that our hearts are not at peace and ultimately trusting God for all that stuff.
Heath Hollensbe:Welcome to the Everyday Disciple Podcast, where you'll learn how to live with greater intentionality and an integrated faith that naturally fits into every area.
Heath Hollensbe:Life.
Heath Hollensbe:In other words, discipleship as a lifestyle.
Heath Hollensbe:This is the stuff your parents, pastors and seminary professors probably forgot to tell you.
Heath Hollensbe:And now here's your host, Caesar Kalinowski.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey brother.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey man.
Caesar Kalinowski:What's going on?
Caesar Kalinowski:Are you gonna throw your mom under the bus again this week?
Caesar Kalinowski:You,
Heath Hollensbe:you know what's funny is she did say something that I thought was, she said, could you rewrite that to, instead of it being the stuff your parents, teachers, and pastors forgot to tell you.
Heath Hollensbe:Could you rewrite that to the things they never taught you?
Heath Hollensbe:Because they didn't know themselves.
Heath Hollensbe:Alright.
Heath Hollensbe:I was like,
Caesar Kalinowski:we're not gonna rewrite it there Ma Hollensbe, but we're
Caesar Kalinowski:gonna, but we are gonna acknowledge that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:That that's the truth in most cases.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like not only they didn't teach you 'cause they weren't taught it either.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, they weren't taught it either.
Caesar Kalinowski:All right.
Caesar Kalinowski:There's plenty of grace from ma. Oh, Ma Hollensbe listening from Nashville.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey, you know what, um, I wanna take a second here to thank our listeners who've been like going over to iTunes, just like we ask.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And they, you know, there's subscribing.
Caesar Kalinowski:'cause I can see that Monday morning, like that number's climbing up quick, which means it's being pushed out in the feed.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, but they're also rating and reviewing us.
Caesar Kalinowski:Really cool.
Caesar Kalinowski:So like, like, uh, someone named BF Chris, my best friend Chris, we ever said, if you're.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you're wishing for a deeper walk with God, especially one in community and discipling others, this podcast is filled with great ideas for changing your lifestyle to one where your faith touches every part of your life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, thanks Chris.
Caesar Kalinowski:Man, that's like, that's exactly what we want.
Caesar Kalinowski:I wish I'd have written that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, Dan PR says, great podcast.
Caesar Kalinowski:Thanks for helping me live an integrated life.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that's, yeah, that's cool.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's the other thing, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So anyway, I thank you guys.
Caesar Kalinowski:Please do that.
Caesar Kalinowski:But still help.
Caesar Kalinowski:But just know we are really encouraged by that.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, um, not that we need to be stroked and all, but, you know, uh, we're.
Caesar Kalinowski:Heath and I are sitting here talking.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, we're in a
Caesar Kalinowski:room and we don't get to hear that.
Caesar Kalinowski:We see
Caesar Kalinowski:numbers, we know people, someone's listening, but it's nice to have a name and just go.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, thanks.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's
Heath Hollensbe:great.
Heath Hollensbe:So thanks.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:I just wanna say thanks for that.
Heath Hollensbe:That's really cool.
Heath Hollensbe:Hey, Caesar, today we're talking about money.
Heath Hollensbe:The one thing that we like to let Jesus into our hearts, but not into our bank accounts.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:I
Heath Hollensbe:invited Jesus
Caesar Kalinowski:into my heart.
Caesar Kalinowski:I trust him for my eternity, but not for my finances.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, busted.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:So today we're talking about that, uh, we're talking about finances and even the heart behind that as followers of Jesus.
Heath Hollensbe:It's always the issue, right?
Heath Hollensbe:The thing behind the thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:Money, money's paper, you know, or it's just digits digitally now, but like how we view it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:How we use it.
Caesar Kalinowski:What do we think it's for?
Caesar Kalinowski:Whose is it?
Caesar Kalinowski:It says a lot
Heath Hollensbe:about what we believe about God.
Heath Hollensbe:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:Right.
Heath Hollensbe:Does, yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:Tell us a little bit about like, uh, the depression.
Heath Hollensbe:I remember you, you were sharing this with me about your grandparents used to live
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, I mean, this is, okay, so just like your mom was saying, you know, like, this is the stuff our parents never taught us 'cause their parents never taught them.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:My views on money were very shaped by my parents.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and more specifically, I think my dad.
Heath Hollensbe:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And my dad was born in 1930, so like boom height of the depression.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And his parents, they were the parents during that as they lived through it.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's ho it was horrifying time, you know, seeing these documentaries in History Channel.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:It was terrible.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it was, you know, people were, you know, it's the breadlines, all that stuff was real.
Caesar Kalinowski:You had nothing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Everybody lost everything, you know, and so when you're born into that right, that, that, you know, my, the way my grandparents viewed it and then my dad having to grow up in that.
Caesar Kalinowski:I remember him telling us all these stories about.
Caesar Kalinowski:So born in 30, so like now, like you're talking late thirties, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:They're just, you know, America's just starting to barely tip its nose up out of that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:But you still don't have anything.
Caesar Kalinowski:But maybe now at least you're starting to eat.
Caesar Kalinowski:And he would say like, oh yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, I used to get, uh, you know, uh, newspapers delivered to the, you know, so and so corner, and it was a corner we still didn't even live that far away from.
Caesar Kalinowski:I could picture his kid, huh.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and I'd sell papers all day on the weekends.
Caesar Kalinowski:And he said I'd sell so many papers that guys would stack 'em up.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it was like, it was like a windbreak.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'd be in like three sides stacked higher than me, and I'd sell all of 'em on a Saturday.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:I's like, what'd you net for that daddy?
Caesar Kalinowski:He says, well, if I sold 'em all, there was like 200 of them I'd, you know, I'd make like, you know, like 50 cents.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or something.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't know who a number was back then.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And I go, wow, what'd you do that?
Caesar Kalinowski:He goes, well, I always gave my mom a quarter.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that would like basically feed us.
Caesar Kalinowski:For like three days.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then I took a cold quarter myself and I, that was enough to get a movie popcorn, a soda, and I could buy a couple comic books that week, you know.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or something.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so that, and he says, and then when I got a little older, I started caddying, you know, at a golf course.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:And when I got big and you get a, you get a buck bag and I was a lot of money back, you know, like that was like probably in 42 or 45 or something.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And he goes and I get a bucket bags, sometimes I'd carry two bags.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm like, and I can picture picture myself.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I was like so skinny up until like, still, you know, but, but I remember thinking like, you're 15 carrying two full bags of golf clubs, debt golf clubs.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:He said, but I make two bucks like that.
Caesar Kalinowski:That was like a. Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's like what people making a whole day at a job.
Caesar Kalinowski:Job.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:He says, your uncle Ray four bags, he carried four bags on a Saturday.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, I'm like, how's that possible?
Caesar Kalinowski:You know?
Caesar Kalinowski:And he always had stories.
Caesar Kalinowski:He always had stories about the guys who, they carry their bags and they were rich and he knew it, you know, 'cause they'd sell what they pulled up in and, and they'd hear 'em talking right about their jobs or how they, you know, how much money they made.
Caesar Kalinowski:And they wouldn't tip 'em, they wouldn't get that dollar tip 'cause they actually caddied for free.
Caesar Kalinowski:But the standard was you tip the kid a buck.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:He said, but some of these guys wouldn't.
Caesar Kalinowski:And he'd name 'em like he still all these years later would remember their name.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, so and so blankety blank.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know that guy?
Caesar Kalinowski:Never, he was so cheap.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know?
Heath Hollensbe:Isn't that crazy?
Heath Hollensbe:It's, it's interesting 'cause I, when I was living in Nashville, we used to go to his favorite place every Sunday after church.
Heath Hollensbe:And I remember we had this new waitress and I was.
Heath Hollensbe:I, I remember one morning after church going like, how, how you doing?
Heath Hollensbe:She's like, I hate Sundays.
Heath Hollensbe:She's like, what do you mean?
Heath Hollensbe:She's like, Christians show up after church and they never tip.
Heath Hollensbe:I was like, whoa.
Heath Hollensbe:I mean, that's unfortunately, we're famous for that.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:She's like, we actually bid, like we try to switch schedules so that we don't have to work on Sundays.
Heath Hollensbe:I'm like, oh, that is so sad.
Heath Hollensbe:I've been come and worship and wow.
Heath Hollensbe:Hey, let's come
Caesar Kalinowski:back to that idea of tipping later.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, that'd be fun.
Caesar Kalinowski:So needless to say.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, my dad being born in the depression, growing up that way, and then never, he never really made a whole lot of money, though we never lacked for anything.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, it has filtered into how I kinda see and use money and I, I'll be honest, and, and Tina and I talk about it a lot, there is still sort of, I guess I'd call it a little bit of a scarcity mentality.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Not like we don't have enough, like I, so maybe that's not the right word for it, but I, I kind of, I always feel like I'm looking down the road to know, am I working hard enough that more will be coming?
Heath Hollensbe:Huh.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it betrays where that money even comes from.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then I, if I sit and talk about it, I go, that's just, I don't even believe that, but I, my heart tends it, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Tends it sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like it leans that way because my dad, part of growing up that way is his work, his work ethic that he, you know, infused into me and the kid.
Caesar Kalinowski:My, you know, my sibs, it's hard, man.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, I work hard.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, you work really hard.
Caesar Kalinowski:I love to work, so that's not the issue, but it can get spun around the spokes, you know, I can get all kind of jacked up on that.
Caesar Kalinowski:And now I'm not having joy in my work and I'm working.
Caesar Kalinowski:To earn versus working from freedom and all that.
Caesar Kalinowski:So yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:Geez.
Heath Hollensbe:Well, Tim Keller, one of my favorites, uh, when he talks about money, he says that money has a tremendous power over us, each and every one of us.
Heath Hollensbe:For some it's our significance, and for others it's our security.
Heath Hollensbe:What do you think about that
Caesar Kalinowski:significance or security?
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, yeah, right.
Caesar Kalinowski:I think so.
Caesar Kalinowski:The thing about what's significance is like I'm worth more.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:I see myself as more valuable and I hope slash believe that others.
Caesar Kalinowski:See me the same, see me that way.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like IE more significant because of what I have financially or stuff, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:So when we talk money, by the way, today, just so you know, you know, and our listeners know, I'm not talking about necessarily your bank account or your stack, you know, of money in your pocket or whatever.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, money buys stuff right, too.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and there's more debt in America than ever before.
Caesar Kalinowski:So I'm just gonna talk about money in light of like possessions and resource and stuff.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So it's money.
Caesar Kalinowski:But it ain't just, I'm not talking about just currency.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know what I mean?
Caesar Kalinowski:So That's great.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, so yeah, so how, how our like what our stuff is leads to significance.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:I think that's real.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I, I could probably sit and think through and spirit would poke me pretty quick on things and I go, you know, I feel pretty significant 'cause I have that Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:All right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Was able to go there and do that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, type of thing or something.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then the second part of what Tim said there is, you know, or, um, for others it's their security.
Caesar Kalinowski:I think that one probably actually hits closer to my own heart, like what I was just sharing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's sort of a bit of a scarcity mentality is like, well, um, I know my security's in Christ and he's the great provider.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:But I gotta work hard.
Caesar Kalinowski:'cause you know, the scripture says, you know, if you, if you don't work, you shouldn eat.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, it's like, like, don't take that one outta context.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know what I mean?
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure, sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, yeah, I think Tim's absolutely right.
Caesar Kalinowski:It has not only has tremendous power, but it has tremendous power over our hearts.
Caesar Kalinowski:But you know what that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Both those things betray our unbelief.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like if I think my significance comes from what I have and own and my money, then I don't, then I'm saying, God, the significance I have as being your image bearer, it's not as good.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:It'd be better to have significance from being a wealthy God.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or if I think my security in life, and I'm not even talking about like our eternal security.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's the big one.
Caesar Kalinowski:Ho ha.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:But that one proves the, the lesser securities that like, Hey, dad's got us.
Caesar Kalinowski:And if I think I actually am, it's my own security for the future, my kids' security, you know, I'm actually providing it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Then I'm basically saying I'm a better securer, I'm a better provider than God.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I see, I'm gonna say no, that's unbelief and, and I can just call in and out.
Caesar Kalinowski:I go, I don't believe it, but you know what we, you're living way it shows we live.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, exactly.
Caesar Kalinowski:Absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So I think ultimately we get to, uh, break free from our slavery to money.
Caesar Kalinowski:By trusting and treasuring.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, truly valuing Jesus.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and, and like I said, the big e on the eye chair was that he was willing to go and pay the ultimate price.
Caesar Kalinowski:In other words, he, he gave all the value his life so that we may be his ultimate treasure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow, that's so good man.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So we treasure him because of how he treasured us.
Caesar Kalinowski:Boy does that put money in perspective right off the bat.
Caesar Kalinowski:Thanks Tim Keller.
Heath Hollensbe:Alright,
Caesar Kalinowski:so thanks for tuning in.
Heath Hollensbe:Have a good week.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:Wow.
Heath Hollensbe:You know, I work in the ministry and so we're not typically known for being the wealthiest people in the face of the planet, but I'm surrounded by people that financially do make significantly more than me.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:I feel that pressure of, you know, feeling like pretty affluent community.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:Significance.
Heath Hollensbe:I, I feel like man.
Heath Hollensbe:If only I can make more money and I could actually go on vacations with the people that invite me to, but I can't because I can't afford it or those sort of things.
Heath Hollensbe:Scripture says a lot about money and most of the time we jack it up.
Heath Hollensbe:Like we say, that money's the root of all evil.
Heath Hollensbe:And it's like, no, it's not money.
Heath Hollensbe:It's the love of money that's the root of all evil.
Heath Hollensbe:Lucy.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah,
Heath Hollensbe:you got those two words, change everything or talks about stewardship and investment.
Heath Hollensbe:Jesus has quite a bit to say about it.
Heath Hollensbe:Um, how do you think the way followers of Jesus spend their money should look different from those who don't yet follow Jesus and why?
Heath Hollensbe:Well, you're
Caesar Kalinowski:right, Heath.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, it's scripture's full of talk about money.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's, it's really the love of money.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's, it's, it's, you know, where our treasure lies kind of thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:And Jesus actually talks about money and money related issues of the heart more than he talks about heaven in hell or pretty much anything else.
Heath Hollensbe:Wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:I, I don't have the stats, but I, I have had them somewhere in my laptop.
Caesar Kalinowski:I have them.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like how many times he brings up money or possessions or, you know that Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And how our heart's connected to it way more than everything else.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, why would that be?
Caesar Kalinowski:Kinda like what Tim Keller said earlier, because it has great power over our hearts and what we but start to believe about God.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's fascinating, man.
Caesar Kalinowski:And ourselves, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, it is.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so, so here's, that's pretty interesting to me, but, but here's some things like who sets your priorities when it comes to money?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like if I just threw that out there into the ozone for you, me and our listeners.
Caesar Kalinowski:Who sets your priorities when it comes to what you do with the money that has now fallen into your care, your stewardship?
Caesar Kalinowski:For me, it's, it's what we have and once after budget, then we set our priorities based off that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's kind of based on our priority money, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, and then, then that kinda leads to this next question of like, whose money and resources it really anyway.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, I could think about, had a friend of mine that when his, uh, teenage son would like get all, you know, teenagey and like rude and like mad at his dad and wanted to.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, you know, he's like, that's it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well I'm gonna move out then.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, he's still in high school.
Caesar Kalinowski:He said, I'm moving out then get out.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, and he'd say, well, um, I don't want you to, I love you son.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, but I mean, I can't stop you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just make sure when you leave don't take anything that's mine or that I paid for.
Caesar Kalinowski:And he out the door for nothing.
Caesar Kalinowski:He starts looked around, he'd have to go out naked 'cause he, you know, he doesn't have a job yet.
Caesar Kalinowski:The car, he borrows mom and dad's car.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, his dressers bed, all his clothes, those killer Nikes.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know what I mean?
Caesar Kalinowski:And so, I mean, maybe that's not the best parenting, you know, last episode we talked about gray space parenting, you know, but, but my, but you know that, what made that stuck in my heart is that, um, we come into the world with nothing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so, whose resources is it anyway?
Caesar Kalinowski:And guess what?
Caesar Kalinowski:You leave with nothing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so that means that all that stuff God pours in.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, he might pour it through your parents.
Caesar Kalinowski:He might pour it through your job.
Caesar Kalinowski:He might pour it through an inheritance.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, but.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's all his and he's just, so that's a good question to ask.
Caesar Kalinowski:Whose money and resource is it?
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, here's another question I'd like to ask.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you lost all of your money tomorrow.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:So that's like what happened, you know, in the depression, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, how would your identity, you know, how you view yourself change?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Significantly.
Caesar Kalinowski:If it did, then you, there's probably, there's a, you got a money issue.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or a love of money issue, or you're valuing money and what it brings you back into that significance and security, security thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like just Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Ask yourself that, and let me ask it the other way.
Caesar Kalinowski:If money were no object or concern in your life, in other words, you had more than you know.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:How would your life change?
Caesar Kalinowski:Would it change?
Caesar Kalinowski:Let, let me just take off the table.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, I have a car that ran every day, you know, and maybe I get a house where my kids each had their own bedroom, so let's just, but beyond that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Beyond some basic sort of extra comfort stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I know some people listening don't own a home.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm not saying that's, it's huge, but I'm just saying, so if you had money was no concern, how would your life change?
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm not talking about those, those kinda layers.
Caesar Kalinowski:How would your life change if all of a sudden money was no issue?
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah,
Caesar Kalinowski:and again, tie to identity and value and significance.
Caesar Kalinowski:Isn't it weird that.
Caesar Kalinowski:I probably should have done some digging up and been the statistic guy on this, um, a very, very high percentage of people that win the lottery.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like ruin their lives.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:There was a documentary on that that was fascinating.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's like, it goes so fast.
Caesar Kalinowski:The money's gone real quick.
Caesar Kalinowski:But it's not only that like, well back to work, I guess that was fun.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, saw the world twice or something.
Caesar Kalinowski:No, it's that generally it's gone and they've kinda ruined their lives and relationships.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or their lives and relationships have been ruined by the money.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so you go, huh?
Caesar Kalinowski:Apparently.
Caesar Kalinowski:There's two sites that not having enough kind of sucks.
Caesar Kalinowski:Having too much kinda sucks.
Caesar Kalinowski:There again, the root of it's all the same thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Whose money is it and where do you gain your significance and, and your value and your security from.
Heath Hollensbe:So good man.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And so, I mean, there again, let me, let me go ahead and just deep dive into some stuff that our brother Jesus shared.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, um, for those of you like to write these things down, Matthew 13.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, he, there's so many cool parables, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:I, I'm just, I love parables.
Caesar Kalinowski:Love it, love it, love it.
Caesar Kalinowski:And here's two, back-to-back parables, and I think there's a reason for this, but in Matthew 13, starting in 44, Jesus says, the kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field.
Caesar Kalinowski:So he's talking about the kingdom of Heaven.
Caesar Kalinowski:What's, what's the kingdom of heaven?
Caesar Kalinowski:That's where those who live under the rule and reign of this perfect God daddy, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:So the kingdom of heaven's like a treasure hidden in a field.
Caesar Kalinowski:And when a man found it, he hid it again, and then his joy, he went and sold everything else he had, and he bought that field.
Caesar Kalinowski:So what's, what's the point of that parable?
Caesar Kalinowski:He, Jesus is saying.
Caesar Kalinowski:Money here was not as valuable as your relationship and your significance and your security that you have from living in the kingdom.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:From dad.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:So
Heath Hollensbe:good.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, so go ahead and burn it all to gain the real deal that gives it all.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then back to back, right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Starting verse 45, he goes again, the kingdom of heaven like a merchant.
Caesar Kalinowski:So that's like a, you know, a guy who's a buyer, settle or trader.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, looking for fine pearls.
Caesar Kalinowski:And when he found one of great value, he went away and he sold everything else he had and he bought that one.
Caesar Kalinowski:Huh?
Caesar Kalinowski:Same thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus, back to back.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's going, do you realize that money's not the point?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:That in fact it's of so little value that you could give all of it.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you could gain this real security and real significance, that's already, it's already yours.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, it's yours, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So you're not really giving up anything.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, this is cool and powerful too.
Caesar Kalinowski:In Matthew six, Jesus said this, so it's actually, he said this before the parables, but these are all like in his just hanging out and traveling with the boys.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:But I, to me, this underlines the whole thing goes, do not store up for yourself.
Caesar Kalinowski:Treasures on earth wear moths and vermin and destroy.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:So, and this isn't King James, but I don't know vermin.
Caesar Kalinowski:What's a vermin?
Caesar Kalinowski:So, so don't store up that stuff right on earth.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, 'cause it's basically, it's gonna go away anyway.
Caesar Kalinowski:And where thieves breaking and steal it.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, in other words, you can't, how much stuff can you hang onto in store?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:But he says instead, store up for yourself.
Caesar Kalinowski:Treasures in heaven.
Caesar Kalinowski:Where moths and vermin do not destroy.
Caesar Kalinowski:And where thieves do not break it in steal.
Caesar Kalinowski:And here's the big jam he goes for where your treasure is there, your heart will be also.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now I kinda was raised where, what that verse meant, and I think it does occlude this, it meant like, Hey, what can you store up in heaven?
Caesar Kalinowski:You can't take money there.
Caesar Kalinowski:Can't take it with you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, so what you can store up though is people getting saved.
Caesar Kalinowski:Huh?
Caesar Kalinowski:So send that stuff along, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I think there's truth in that.
Caesar Kalinowski:There's other verses and we can even talk about that in another episode if you want.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:But, but this is specifically in light of money.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus parables and talks about money, and so what he's saying is, store up for yourself Treasures in heaven.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now let's pause for a second.
Caesar Kalinowski:What's heaven?
Caesar Kalinowski:Is it a place?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yes.
Caesar Kalinowski:Is it a state of being?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yes.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:When Jesus taught his disciples, Hey, here's how you pray to dad that that his will.
Caesar Kalinowski:His righteous, perfect rule and reign, his peace, his perfect shalom would be on earth as it is in heaven.
Caesar Kalinowski:So Jesus is saying, Hey, store up.
Caesar Kalinowski:For yourselves.
Caesar Kalinowski:Treasures in the kingdom, in this rule and reign of God in the way the world works.
Caesar Kalinowski:When you live free and you have your security in him and you have your identity and your significance in him, that's where you wanna put your effort and your resources towards.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's not talking about for some day far away.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's going right now.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right now.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right now.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And for where your treasure is, if it's in God's kingdom, if it's in his hands, yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Perfectly.
Caesar Kalinowski:Then your heart will also be there, which means when you then.
Caesar Kalinowski:Basically give it all back to God and I wanna live in your righteous rule, Andre, trust you for it all.
Caesar Kalinowski:So what I'll go is I'll invest in that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:Then my heart will be there, which means I will have peace and I will believe the security I have and I'll believe the significance that only comes from God and then the pressure's off.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's so good.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean that is deep.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's, that's really, it's, it's just three verses.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, go and dig it up.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:So let me ask you a question kinda outta the blue, a little bit of a weird thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Are you and Kathleen, are you living as a conduit?
Caesar Kalinowski:A barrel.
Caesar Kalinowski:I have no clue what you're talking about.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:All right.
Caesar Kalinowski:So a conduit.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's, it's like a pipe.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, like I grew up in Illinois where electrical wires run through a conduit.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Condu.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, but anything a conduit's, the way you channel one thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:From one place to another.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's how you get that right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, it's something that water or electricity or any other supply is routed from one place to another.
Caesar Kalinowski:A barrel, everybody knows what a barrel is.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, like a big wooden barrel or it could be a metal barrel or whatever.
Caesar Kalinowski:55 gallon drum kind of thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, is for storing up resources.
Caesar Kalinowski:For holding onto them for later use.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:I remember
Caesar Kalinowski:being in Germany and people run their rain gutters into a big barrel.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And they catch that water for later use.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:So back to the question, are you living in light of finances and resources that God's pouring into your life?
Caesar Kalinowski:Are you living like a conduit or a barrel?
Caesar Kalinowski:It's a convicting question, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So I, you know, and I'm not trying to,
Heath Hollensbe:I'm not trying to, I mean, you don't have to answer what happens when there's no money to conduit and there's no money to barrel.
Heath Hollensbe:There's blessings in all kinds of it.
Heath Hollensbe:If you're not living under a
Caesar Kalinowski:bridge, you got pretty nice clothes on.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you know, they're simple in color, very simple.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, so God is looking for conduits of his grace in generosity.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's not looking for barrels to store those things in coveting our things and acting as if they're like.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our, our own source of income and supply and it's my money and my time and so on.
Caesar Kalinowski:It shows that our hearts are not at peace and ultimately trusting God for all that stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:Remember I said we're talking about money today, but it's really about resource period.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, we hang onto that stuff because we believe it's in short supply in words.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, why it feels like it's in short supply?
Caesar Kalinowski:'cause it's up to us to generate it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Crazy, right Carter?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:But God owns a cattle on a thousand Hill and so he is looking for conduits that he can just like, I'm gonna pour it into your lap Heath, because what I know you're gonna do is you're gonna both enjoy it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's my kid.
Caesar Kalinowski:'cause I want you to And you're gonna let it go just right back out to someone else.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Because you know why?
Caesar Kalinowski:'cause you trust me there's more coming.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or you can live like a barrel, like I'll kick out.
Caesar Kalinowski:Thanks for that.
Caesar Kalinowski:A quarter mental.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I'm gonna, I'm gonna hang onto it 'cause I need it.
Caesar Kalinowski:That really betrays like our true belief in like, does he really have a lot and Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Is he generous?
Caesar Kalinowski:So whenever my wife t and I have prayed about like giving a certain amount of money to someone in need, you know, like a need comes up, it's like, well, let's pray about hunting and seal.
Caesar Kalinowski:We come up with, we usually have either ended up with the exact same number Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:That we had in mind.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or Tina's come up with a, a number much bigger than mine, just be honest.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'll say, I think we should give, you know, this much to those folks who are like, oh, I was thinking like three times.
Caesar Kalinowski:Usually it's the same number, but I, but I, I trust your heart and good for you, Tina.
Caesar Kalinowski:Her heart of generosity has helped remind me over and over again that she sees God as a great and generous God able to refill the barrel if we just trust him and pour it out for others.
Caesar Kalinowski:So I just wanna encourage.
Caesar Kalinowski:Everybody go ahead and tip over the barrel,
Heath Hollensbe:you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like just dump it out and let everybody, you know, splash around in it and enjoy it and have a blast.
Heath Hollensbe:And one of the ways that's so easy to tie this into everyday life is just almost every listener, I'm assuming.
Heath Hollensbe:Probably goes out to eat once a month or once every couple weeks.
Heath Hollensbe:And tipping is such a great way to tangibly put this into practice.
Heath Hollensbe:Uh, so like when we're eating at a restaurant, Kathleen and I sometimes won't go out to nice restaurants or won't go out to restaurants simply 'cause we don't have the money to tip well.
Heath Hollensbe:And so we're like, yeah, we'll do something less.
Heath Hollensbe:'cause we, when we go out, we wanna show like God is generous and yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:And uh, so what are your thoughts on tipping?
Heath Hollensbe:Like is it a hassle or is it a really great opportunity for us to practice generosity?
Caesar Kalinowski:Well,
Heath Hollensbe:you sort just
Caesar Kalinowski:kinda
Heath Hollensbe:answered, well, let me tell you Caesar.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah, it's a great opportunity to practice
Caesar Kalinowski:generosity.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, so here's this term.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's called Gospel Tipping.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:And as far as I know it was, it was my friend, and you know him as well, Jeff VanDerill.
Caesar Kalinowski:I think he first coined that phrase, okay, you know, you can go, you can gospel hyphenate, anything's a gospel tipping.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, and it was his suggestion that we tip people, you know, waiters, baristas, taxi driver, a doorman, whatever.
Caesar Kalinowski:In light of how well we believe God has blessed us.
Caesar Kalinowski:In accordance with our performance.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Lemme say that again.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's so good too.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:We tend to tip in light of how we believe God's blessed us in light of our performance.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:So it works like this.
Caesar Kalinowski:We usually give good tips to people who we believe have given us good service.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:They've performed up to our level of expectation and we might tip quite a bit less or withhold a gratuity altogether from folks that we think have given us poor service.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or had a less than awesome attitude.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's so see it's talk about, we talked last week in the parenting thing about transactional parenting.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, you know, we tend to tip on people's performance.
Caesar Kalinowski:Mm-hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:But if we were to stop for a moment and ask ourselves how generous was God with me?
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, when I was, when I was still holding my fist up to him in defiance and rebellion, believing I could be my own God, how generous was he to me?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, the answer is to that my friend, is that he gave his most valuable and precious resource, his own son, Jesus, to pay our full sin tab.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And redeem us.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so in truth, the more sinful we are, the greater in proportion his gift was.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:Scripture even talks about that, in other words.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so in truth, the more sinful we are, the greater in proportion his gift to us is.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Heath Hollensbe:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:It wasn't like, Hey, we were sinning and God like just.
Caesar Kalinowski:Threw a little some change at us and said, well, I hope that helps in your crappy life.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's like, no.
Caesar Kalinowski:He completely took on and took over the payment for our sin, which was death upon himself.
Caesar Kalinowski:He definitely over tipped us.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so when we don't tip generously, in some ways it reveals the truth in our own hearts that, that we may not be really fully believing the gospel because if God gave us what we deserved, yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:We be screwed and, but he didn't.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so, so good.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, and now, you know, if we shift our thinking, tipping can become this act of expressing the good news tangibly to others.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it, you know what, and I think I, this is, I'll be honest with you, sometimes people don't know why we're tipping or over tipping.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I, and I know people that are like, Hey, I just wanna give you a little extra tip.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know why?
Caesar Kalinowski:'cause God's great and he's, you know,
Heath Hollensbe:you can, you don't need to, it's okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, because for me, I'll be honest with you, um.
Caesar Kalinowski:Tipping and over tipping actually realigns my own heart.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And reminds me of how over the top generous dad is.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:In heaven it
Caesar Kalinowski:does equally as much for us as anything we could give away.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And even more than how others perceive my tipping, I need to tip well to remind myself of what I received and I didn't deserve it.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, and I've, I, I can remember having a conversation with people who were like, oh, I just can't, I just can't tip someone who has bad service.
Caesar Kalinowski:I think all you're doing is rewarding.
Caesar Kalinowski:Reinforcing bad service.
Caesar Kalinowski:You're like, but doesn't scripture say that it's God's kindness that leads to repentance.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So why don't you just leave a track on the table and then that leads back to what you're saying with the waitress friends of yours that don't wanna work on Sundays.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:'cause Christians don't tip.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's that kind of false, like weird theology and belief around finance and money and God's generosity and how well they think of themselves.
Caesar Kalinowski:I guess
Heath Hollensbe:I've earned this.
Heath Hollensbe:I know a guy who used to have a, a stack of singles that when he sat down to a meal.
Heath Hollensbe:He would go like, here's your tip.
Heath Hollensbe:And every time you come back and there's, and my water's not full, I'm taking one of these back.
Heath Hollensbe:And so, oh boy, you're just like, I mean, this is a godly man too, that you're going like, dude, boom.
Heath Hollensbe:That's his view of God.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's his view of God.
Caesar Kalinowski:Absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:Isn't that crazy?
Caesar Kalinowski:So, so I share all that because you know, that tipping story is, you know, 'cause it is a bit of an exercise.
Caesar Kalinowski:I say go for it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like over tip chip generously.
Caesar Kalinowski:Trust God in that and see what it does to your own heart.
Caesar Kalinowski:And when you don't feel like it, have that conversation.
Caesar Kalinowski:What am I not believing about?
Caesar Kalinowski:My own reception of grace and value.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um.
Caesar Kalinowski:'cause it really does review how we view money and finances and living generously and all that.
Heath Hollensbe:Absolutely man.
Heath Hollensbe:So what advice would you give to those who are feeling even right now that they need to make some changes in light of this conversation?
Heath Hollensbe:Well, how
Caesar Kalinowski:about, 'cause we're kind of running late.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:How about I give that advice in the form of this week's big three?
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:Perfect.
Heath Hollensbe:As always, each episode we give you three things that you can take away from all of this.
Heath Hollensbe:We call those the big three.
Heath Hollensbe:Three things that we want you to know and believe that you could right now go out and get started with in light of today's discussion, and you can get this for free.
Heath Hollensbe:It's a free download as always, by going to everyday Disciple dot com slash big three.
Heath Hollensbe:Again, that's everyday Disciple dot com slash big three.
Heath Hollensbe:Alright, Caesar, what are the big three for this three?
Heath Hollensbe:Okay.
Heath Hollensbe:Big three.
Heath Hollensbe:I'm gonna
Caesar Kalinowski:go right through 'em.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, first know that all of your resources in life came after you were born.
Caesar Kalinowski:They were tools given to us throughout this life in all kinds of various ways, by God to show his love and grace and generosity in the.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And sure we get to enjoy them too because God loves his kids and he wants us to enjoy those blessings, but they're primarily given to show his grace and generosity.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's great.
Caesar Kalinowski:Second, God's looking for conduits of his grace.
Caesar Kalinowski:So live as a conduit, not as a barrel.
Caesar Kalinowski:Storing up treasures of your own, you know, for your own use and sort of sort of self-managed future trust God, there's way more where that came from.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then third, um.
Caesar Kalinowski:You won't be taking any of your financial or stuff resources with you when you die, so I just wanna say bounce your last check.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Live crazy generous lives.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can't outgive God and just try it.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know?
Caesar Kalinowski:There's only one thing in scripture that says, you know, the scripture says, don't test God.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus says, don't try to test God.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:There's one thing that says, test God in this generos.
Caesar Kalinowski:Huh?
Caesar Kalinowski:It's the one thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Test him live as a conduit.
Caesar Kalinowski:Check it out.
Caesar Kalinowski:Watch that.
Caesar Kalinowski:He goes, that's what I've been looking for.
Caesar Kalinowski:So live crazy, crazy, generous lives.
Caesar Kalinowski:Bounce your last check.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like give it to your kids while you're alive.
Caesar Kalinowski:Whatever you wanna do, but just live generously and when you go out, can't take it with you anyway.
Caesar Kalinowski:Have a zero balance.
Heath Hollensbe:See, that is so good.
Heath Hollensbe:This has been such a good, hard alignment even for me, man.
Heath Hollensbe:Thanks for great, man.
Heath Hollensbe:Cool.
Heath Hollensbe:Hey.
Heath Hollensbe:Uh, time's up, sadly, but Wow.
Heath Hollensbe:We'll have another one of these next week.
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Heath Hollensbe:Hey, next week we talk about decision fatigue.
Heath Hollensbe:We have so much constantly attacking.
Heath Hollensbe:Too much to do.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah, we're exhausted to make, make, I can't take the decision.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah.
Heath Hollensbe:We're exhausted from having to make decisions all the time.
Heath Hollensbe:Maybe you're there.
Heath Hollensbe:I've sure been there.
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