Gospel Motivation: The Key to Changing Our Desires Pt.1
Many churches and leaders are constantly chasing the next big thing, hoping it’ll spark growth or keep people engaged. But so often, these changes fall flat and don’t lead to real transformation. So how do we stay truly motivated—and help others desire a lifestyle of discipleship and mission that lasts?
In this episode of the podcast, we show you how “Gospel Motivation” shapes the way we lead our churches, communities, and families—and what happens when we rely on anything else. This goes deeper than hype or hustle. It’s about living from the inside out.
In This Episode You’ll Learn:
- Why the “American Dream” might be quietly pulling you away from mission
- How what we believe in our heads shapes the affections of our hearts
- Why the gospel reorients all of our motivations and desires
- What makes a life of faith attractive—or unappealing—to others
From this episode:`
“It can be hard to rightly motivate people on mission… we have well-worn grooves, patterns, and language that end up being more law than grace, more hard work than gospel freedom. To grow in your gospel fluency and learn the ‘language of the gospel’, I want to invite you to a powerful, free training and webinar I’m hosting… The Gospel in Everyday Life.
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Transcript
The legalist says you should not, and you should.
Caesar Kalinowski:What's a legalist.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's how we motivate as a legalist.
Caesar Kalinowski:You should not.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you should like, you should not sin.
Caesar Kalinowski:You should do this.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:The gospel says, you need not do that, but you need,
Caesar Kalinowski:you need not do that, but you need.
Caesar Kalinowski:So the legalist would say, you need to get on mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:The gospel says you needn't get on mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:You're already loving and acceptance, but you need to live a life fulfilling God's purposes on mission, because that's how you're going to come to know him.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's how God's going to shape and mold you more into Christ.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just sitting in a classroom is not going to get that done so you don't need to be on mission to please him.
Caesar Kalinowski:You already have that in Christ.
Caesar Kalinowski:But you need to be on his mission because that's how he's going to conform you.
Heath Hollensbe:Welcome to the Everyday Disciple podcast where you learn how to live with greater intentionality and an integrated faith that naturally fits into every area.
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Caesar Kalinowski:Discipleship becomes a lifestyle that naturally grows out of your family's rhythms and how you live.
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Caesar Kalinowski:So with all the changes we're facing as Christians and as the church, how do we stay motivated?
Caesar Kalinowski:And motivate others to desire, to live a lifestyle of discipleship and mission beyond a weekly.
Caesar Kalinowski:Even if that's changed or sometimes we do it live and now people can tune in.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we're not seeing as many people cause they're just tuning in, on the stream, on the internet or at least we think they are, but you know how that goes because everything that's beyond like a second or three seconds counts as a stream, as a watch.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you're like, wow, look at all the people watching, not necessarily.
Caesar Kalinowski:So as we're moving people out to be the church in micro churches, in homes and in small groups in missional communities that are a part of our larger churches, family life together, how do we rightly motivate people?
Caesar Kalinowski:I can remember when we first started living in and multiplying missional communities, making disciples that way we weren't always the best at motivating.
Caesar Kalinowski:With the gospel, a lot of our quote, unquote encouragements, if you will had a pretty big dose of, well, you should be doing this, right.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is what the Bible teaches or supposed to.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're supposed to live this way, supposed to do this or that we threw way too much.
Caesar Kalinowski:And eventually, even though we were having fun and things were growing, it started to feel like law and people didn't love it.
Caesar Kalinowski:They didn't want this life.
Caesar Kalinowski:So how do we rightly motivate people and starting with ourselves to want to live this life that Jesus died to give us?
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, I want to share a talk that I gave a few years back when I was part of the leadership of Soma communities and my buddy Heath and I, who was part of the life school podcast.
Caesar Kalinowski:We've shared parts of this talk before previous.
Caesar Kalinowski:Back years ago, uh, when the podcast was called life school, and this is a training I was giving primarily to a large room of church planters.
Caesar Kalinowski:However, as you'll hear this applies to all of us, especially today within our changing culture and church rhythms.
Caesar Kalinowski:So what I'm going to cover in this part of this talk is how maybe our American dream life may be a smoker.
Caesar Kalinowski:For not living on mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:It might be a convenient excuse for not living on mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:And why, what you believe in your head will change what you believe in your heart.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's how it flows, head heart, then into our life, our hands.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're also going to talk about how the gospel changes all of our motivations and our affections, even maybe where we live.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So take a look, listen, I'll be back at the end with the big three for today, and a new segment of something to think about.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here we go.
Caesar Kalinowski:What we're finding is, is that to consistently motivate people for the mission that just using the stick of should, or why wouldn't you, or you could, or shame or whatever is not a good long-term motivator.
Caesar Kalinowski:That really there needs to be a gospel centered motivation to helping our people either get on mission or even really stay on mission because you know, the scripture talks about the beast.
Caesar Kalinowski:The world's system, it is pushing against this.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's pushing against us.
Caesar Kalinowski:It is trying, it is tearing down and throwing up lots of roadblocks that we've gotten used to, or that we're weary of, or that we've even erected sometimes as the church.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and we need, we do need to be motivated.
Caesar Kalinowski:I, I need consistent motivation.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so I want to talk a little bit.
Caesar Kalinowski:How do we, how do we move to gospel motivation with our people?
Caesar Kalinowski:Not just more head knowledge or not just more classwork or not just a better small group or Missional Community structure, but how are we going to motivate them in the every day?
Caesar Kalinowski:I think what I want to suggest is it's going to start with what you love.
Caesar Kalinowski:You have to motivate what you love, what they love, what.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm not sure if it was Twain or who it was that said, if you want to, if you want to teach somebody how to build a boat first, give them a love for the sea.
Caesar Kalinowski:Because if they love the sea, they will look out there and go, like, I have to figure out how to build a boat.
Caesar Kalinowski:I will figure it out how to.
Caesar Kalinowski:If our folks, if our folks are not in love with God and not in love with Christ deeply and are not loving the things that he loves and died for, they really will not be motivated to be out making disciples to make disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:They won't be motivated for the mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's the mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now we do a heart check with that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cause, cause I'll be honest with you there again, I'm pretty pragmatic.
Caesar Kalinowski:And often I am way more focused on tightening up this broken system and Soma or getting this new thing launched or getting these set of Missional Community shored up over here or getting a key leader plugged in over there.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I lose my first love.
Caesar Kalinowski:I lose the love of Christ.
Caesar Kalinowski:. And that's for people who are created in his image.
Caesar Kalinowski:To show the world what he's like, who aren't are not to the degree that God intends and they need Christ and they need the power of the gospel to transform them and send them out on that same, same trajectory.
Caesar Kalinowski:What you love is going to be the best.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's going to be a huge primary motivator.
Caesar Kalinowski:So if, if, if you see, I know when we ever feel like the temperature is turned down and we're not seeing a lot of conversions, we're not seeing people start to walk in the ways of.
Caesar Kalinowski:We ask ourselves, how are we doing?
Caesar Kalinowski:How's our love temperature?
Caesar Kalinowski:Are we motivating our people to really love God and love Christ and love what he died for.
Caesar Kalinowski:I love the story in scripture with Abraham and Isaac, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:If you know the story of Abraham, you've got, you've got a descendant of a bunch of moon worshipers.
Caesar Kalinowski:Who's out doing what he's doing.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you know the full story of Abraham, he's not that great.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's kind of a big fat liar.
Caesar Kalinowski:At one point, he pimps out his wife on a journey to save his own neck.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:But God chooses him like grace upon grace, God reaches out and chooses this guy and makes the amazing covenant with him to make him famous throughout all of history and make him into a great nation.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that he would bless the whole world through this guy and his family.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it starts with a son.
Caesar Kalinowski:It starts with.
Caesar Kalinowski:Isaac as we tell the story of God, and as we form people in story, and we go to the next story and we look at like, okay, you won't even believe what happens next God calls Abraham to take Isaac up onto a mountain and sacrifice him.
Caesar Kalinowski:And if you're a dad or mom, and just that story is horrifying.
Caesar Kalinowski:I am an only son.
Caesar Kalinowski:I only have one son, two daughters, and I story wrecks me every time.
Caesar Kalinowski:But that's what Abraham does.
Caesar Kalinowski:And in that story,
Caesar Kalinowski:God's when he stops.
Caesar Kalinowski:Abraham's hand coming down with a knife.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can just see it in slow Mo just coming down to sacrifice his son already tied up on the wood.
Caesar Kalinowski:God says stop did not harm your son.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now I know now I know you love me the most
Caesar Kalinowski:you did not withhold for me.
Caesar Kalinowski:The thing you loved the most in this world.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, as you loved me more, God.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like really, you know, Abraham loved God more than that first son, that was the hinge pin for the whole nation.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then the blessing, ultimately we know now in Christ being real, God says, now I know you love me more.
Caesar Kalinowski:You did not withhold even this.
Caesar Kalinowski:Let me ask you, what do you love the most in your life?
Caesar Kalinowski:Be honest.
Caesar Kalinowski:What do you love the most?
Caesar Kalinowski:Do you love your status as a pastor elder Sunday school leader, dad.
Caesar Kalinowski:Mom, do you love your current house?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, I really love my house, man.
Caesar Kalinowski:I can remember back in Chicago when God moved us to Tacoma
Caesar Kalinowski:I can remember this was probably a year and a half before he even moved us.
Caesar Kalinowski:He was preparing my heart, my wife's heart for moving to plant.
Caesar Kalinowski:We had it made back there and we had the nicest house, like anybody in our family had ever had, like, we'd arrived baby, because we were working for a mega church and churches pay well.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I remember the spirit of God saying to me, what if I call you to sell this house?
Caesar Kalinowski:And I remember weeping.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cause I'm in my heart.
Caesar Kalinowski:I was like, I don't want to sell this house.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is an awesome freaking house.
Caesar Kalinowski:Do you love your kids more than you love God?
Caesar Kalinowski:How many of your folks love their kids more than they love the mission that Christ died to send us on?
Caesar Kalinowski:It's evident.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can see it.
Caesar Kalinowski:You could see the little idols that are running around the house and how they're treated by the parents and all the soccer games and the private school.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I'm not against any of this.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:But it's just how you wear your heart lands.
Caesar Kalinowski:And they got to be at every camp and they've gotta be at summer camp for both soccer and for band.
Caesar Kalinowski:And they gotta be at this and that, and this, and they're gonna have this for their education that, or, or like we just had a couple in our community recently talking again about their kids, the pressure they put on their kids to do well and Excel so they could get into the right university.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then once they got to the right universities, the pressure that they loving Christian parents, that they were putting on their kids, they love their kids and the way their kids made them appear in their parenting more than they loved.
Caesar Kalinowski:And the mission God says to Abraham.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now I know you love more.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're going to, I have to call idols idols and in the suburbs, it's maybe, I don't know, it's the same everywhere.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's maybe even worse here, but people love them, their own houses and they love them cars and then flat screens and those kids and those soccer games and they're big church buildings and go down the list and none of it's bad.
Caesar Kalinowski:Until it takes our heart until those good things become ultimate thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like Tim Keller says, none of that's bad, but we know heart of hearts.
Caesar Kalinowski:We know ourselves and we know lots of our people love that stuff way more than they love the mission, because all you all you'd have to do is open up their data, their data, or open up their calendars and you'd know, look at there, look at the ledger of how they spend their money.
Caesar Kalinowski:Look at how you spend years.
Caesar Kalinowski:You'll know what you love.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're going to have to call idols idols, and we're going to have to paint the gospel of God and Christ in all that he is and is doing over and over.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we just going to have to see Jesus get beautiful and make much of him over and over so that people will begin to go.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, I can't believe I spent X amount of years chasing after the American nightmare of stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:And.
Caesar Kalinowski:When I could've been, I could've, I could've had this role in the kingdom of God.
Caesar Kalinowski:I could sweep out the king.
Caesar Kalinowski:The corner of this kingdom is more than I deserve, Lord, whatever you'd have for me, what you love the most.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now there's two sides of that coin in that story.
Caesar Kalinowski:I that's why I love this story.
Caesar Kalinowski:He also, he says that God says that to Abraham, but then he goes on to say, now I know that you fear me.
Caesar Kalinowski:What you love the most, but now I know that you fear me.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, we know that the fear of the Lord is not this trembling fear in Christ it's it's, it's reverence.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's awe.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's the most glory.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's the most weighty thing in our life is, is God.
Caesar Kalinowski:When God says now, I know you fear me.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's he's telling Abraham, I know where your heart's at.
Caesar Kalinowski:See whatever you fear the most we'll have.
Caesar Kalinowski:We'll be the governing power of your life.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you fear your parents' approval or not getting it cause you're out planting church and it's, you're not running that, but money that big that's our determinations, that night, how many are you running on Sunday??
Caesar Kalinowski:And if you fear approval for how many you're running or your supporters back home or wherever, and you don't know how to tell them that you're actually living life on mission with people and not that many show up on Sunday, but all week long, people are coming to know Jesus and what he's like and put their faith and hope and trust in him.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you fear that the most, then you won't see you'll, you'll go back to counting the three BS, butts, budgets, and buildings.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you fear most losing your position in the church, because you know, if you go after the idols out, you go, if you fear your wife's approval, she, you feel your husband's approval.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now I know that you fear me, whatever you fear the most will be the governing power.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't know if it's even right to think this I'd like to fear the most, that I'm going to stand before the throne someday.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you know, when it says in scripture, Jesus says you can do everything you've seen me do.
Caesar Kalinowski:And even greater things like what are the greater things?
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus, you really rocked it when you were here.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm hoping to avoid that cross part of your life, but pretty much everything before and after it looks really good.
Caesar Kalinowski:And powerful.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus says you get to do all of that.
Caesar Kalinowski:And even more greater things, I don't want to stand there, go like, oh, I could have done that.
Caesar Kalinowski:What she just said I could have done.
Caesar Kalinowski:I would have done that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like I could have made disciples in that nation.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, you would have changed a whole city through our family if we lived this, I don't know if that's even good theology.
Caesar Kalinowski:I want to fear the most.
Caesar Kalinowski:That I actually, that God is glorious and he's the one who I have his approval.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so therefore that's the motivator in my life.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm accepted.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm good.
Caesar Kalinowski:If we never make another disciple, just as good.
Caesar Kalinowski:If our church never gets beyond 20 people, I'm just as accepted.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're going to keep on trying to make disciples here.
Caesar Kalinowski:What do you fear the most?
Caesar Kalinowski:Next thing is you motivate people, motivate people, what they love.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:What they love.
Caesar Kalinowski:The next thing is what you believe.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we break belief down this way.
Caesar Kalinowski:Belief we believe.
Caesar Kalinowski:What do you believe in your head?
Caesar Kalinowski:What do you believe in your heart?
Caesar Kalinowski:And what do you believe with your hands it's old school head, heart, hands it's part of making disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's got to be holistic.
Caesar Kalinowski:We'll talk about that in that last session.
Caesar Kalinowski:So what they believe is going to be a constant motivator.
Caesar Kalinowski:What do they believe?
Caesar Kalinowski:Let's start with what you believe in your head.
Caesar Kalinowski:Do your folks, do, you know, do your people know, are they motivated by a belief in their head of the power and the purpose of the gospel?
Caesar Kalinowski:Do they know that the gospel is powerful to save?
Caesar Kalinowski:They've saved them from the penalty.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's saving them right now, sanctifying them.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's going to save them from all the presence of sin.
Caesar Kalinowski:Did they know that?
Caesar Kalinowski:Do they know they have a huge purpose for their life?
Caesar Kalinowski:And there's no Plan B. I'm not going to teach the whole thing again, but do your people know a really big, fully orbed power and purpose of the gospel they need to, or they'll think it's all about them or the flip to the other side, and they'll just get busy without power and they'll hate their life.
Caesar Kalinowski:And the world watches that.
Caesar Kalinowski:That busy restorative life of doing lots of church stuff and Missional looking stuff without a power that's beyond us.
Caesar Kalinowski:The world watches that and goes, no, thanks.
Caesar Kalinowski:I already have that without the guilt.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm already working my guts out for, I don't know what, without the guilt, you're doing it with a lot of shame and guilt.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'll just keep what I got.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So what they believe in their head, do they believe thegospel.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Do they believe their identity in Christ?
Caesar Kalinowski:We form our communities around this, in everything we do over and over from day one today, when Jesus gets back their identity in Christ, who you are, will lead to what you do.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you want to motivate people on the mission of making disciples to make disciples with all of their lives, they're going to actually have to believe they've become a new creation.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now how we articulate how God has led us to articulate it is there's four sort of four, it filters.
Caesar Kalinowski:We say, this is our identity family of God.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're missionaries, we're family, we're missionaries, we're servants, we're learners.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then that's the word we use for disciple because in our context, disciple carried with it, some kind of weird kind of.
Caesar Kalinowski:Leftover residual and Tacoma.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we say learner, a person who's taking responsibility for their own learning and the learning of others.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we, we, this rolls out of our mouth all day, every day.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're a family of missionary servants.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's who we are, who are, and are making disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're family of missionary servants who are making disciples now, where are we get that?
Caesar Kalinowski:Just in case you want to know?
Caesar Kalinowski:It's it comes from this thing called the trinity
Caesar Kalinowski:okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:If we all have the same father church, we're sons and daughters of the same dad, what does that make us family?
Caesar Kalinowski:If, if, if the son is our king he's Lord overall, it's his kingdom, his church that makes us his servants, the two basic requirements for a kingdom to exist.
Caesar Kalinowski:A king and servants.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then who in the Trinity father, son, who is the sending agent of Christ who sent Christ.
Caesar Kalinowski:And now who is the sending agent of the church, the spirit.
Caesar Kalinowski:See if we have the holy spirit, we are missionary people.
Caesar Kalinowski:We are.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're a family of missionary servants.
Caesar Kalinowski:If we're, if we're in Christ, that's why, when you baptize people, did you ever wonder why they baptized people into the name of that's an identity statement, then baptizing them, making disciples, baptizing them into the name of the father.
Caesar Kalinowski:So they know they're my family, that they're all family.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're our chosen family, a set apart family in the Son there to be servants because he's the king.
Caesar Kalinowski:And he actually came a servant . And the holy spirit go therefore and make, see when you baptize people.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what you're doing is you're baptizing them into a new identity.
Caesar Kalinowski:They come up out of the water, new as it were.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what it means to be a disciple.
Caesar Kalinowski:Do your people believe their identity?
Caesar Kalinowski:See if you are a missionary, then you go and you seek.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you're a family, you live a certain way.
Caesar Kalinowski:People say like, well, how do you guys in Soma live this way?
Caesar Kalinowski:And your lives are sort of all intertwined and you're sharing your stuff and you're doing this and you're doing that well.
Caesar Kalinowski:What is, what is a good family?
Caesar Kalinowski:If we're family, what does life look like?
Caesar Kalinowski:Does it look like we sit in silence once a week for an hour and a half in rows?
Caesar Kalinowski:Does it look like no.
Caesar Kalinowski:On top of that we get together and study that same.
Caesar Kalinowski:Over some pie once a week, but I don't really have any other connection to you all week.
Caesar Kalinowski:That would be a crappy family.
Caesar Kalinowski:See our identity, it answers, it, answers it all.
Caesar Kalinowski:What would a family of missionary servants who are disciples and are making disciples?
Caesar Kalinowski:What would they look like?
Caesar Kalinowski:You're going to have to motivate your people.
Caesar Kalinowski:What do they know?
Caesar Kalinowski:What do they know in their head?
Caesar Kalinowski:And do they know then that the mission is to make disciples?
Caesar Kalinowski:I swear.
Caesar Kalinowski:I think we have done a really good job.
Caesar Kalinowski:I know I did for years that I think what we taught people, like what they knew in their head, the mission was, was come to church on Sunday, get people to church on Sunday.
Caesar Kalinowski:So the professional can tell him.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then eventually, eventually I guess they'll bring more people here.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't know.
Caesar Kalinowski:What's the ultimate goal here?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like yes.
Caesar Kalinowski:Average person doesn't know that ultimate goal is that the world would be full of disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:So the world would be full of Jesus.
Caesar Kalinowski:That was the plan from garden forward before the garden, your average person thinks, I don't know.
Caesar Kalinowski:I guess I'm supposed to get people to church and try to sin less, right.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cause I don't want to burn in hell.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like in fact I should probably tell people about hell a lot.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, I could go right now.
Caesar Kalinowski:Seriously.
Caesar Kalinowski:We could go out right now to a pub at lunch.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'll put money on the table.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'll talk at least five people praying the sinner's prayer.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cause they're not going to want to burn in hell.
Caesar Kalinowski:Is that the ultimate goal or is it that they would be full of the spirit of God and they would live out the purpose that God created them for.
Caesar Kalinowski:Do people know that making disciples who make disciples is what they were saved for.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're going to need to know that that brings implication.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what I was saved and created and saved for.
Caesar Kalinowski:Why am I spending 99% of my time in life and resources doing that?
Caesar Kalinowski:So what they know in their head, what they believe in their head, I'm sorry, what they believe in their head.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, what they believe in their heart is probably even more important.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like are they believe in the gospel at a heart level?
Caesar Kalinowski:So they have peace.
Caesar Kalinowski:Are they leaning into grace?
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Do you believe, like if we're talking about motivating people with the gospel for mission, do you believe that you must make disciples or be Missional to have God's love and acceptance and approval?
Caesar Kalinowski:Because we started, we started doing that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our people seriously, they would hang their heads around us, like, well, what's up.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, you know, I don't think our Missional Community is doing very good and suddenly they, they knew they hadn't earned our approval and they probably in their hearts, weren't believing that they actually had earned it.
Caesar Kalinowski:They see, we're not doing very good at earning God's approval because we're just not that Missional.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm still kind of sucked into, you know, CSI, reruns and soccer and too much, I suppose, I'm not pleasing.
Caesar Kalinowski:God enough.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, do they believe the truth of the gospel?
Caesar Kalinowski:See, the legalist says you should not, and you should.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's a legalist.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's how we motivate as a legalist.
Caesar Kalinowski:You should not.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you should like, you should not sin.
Caesar Kalinowski:You should do this.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:The gospel says, you need not do that, but you need,
Caesar Kalinowski:you need not do that, but you need, so the legalist let's say you need to get on mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:The gospel says you needn't get on mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:You're already loving and acceptance, but you need to live a life fulfilling God's purposes on mission, because that's how you're going to come to know him.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's how God's going to shape and mold you more into Christ.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just sitting in a classroom is not going to get that done so you don't need to be on mission to please him.
Caesar Kalinowski:You already have that in Christ, but you need to be on his mission because that's how he's going to conform you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, legalist says you shouldn't steal.
Caesar Kalinowski:You should work hard for what you need.
Caesar Kalinowski:The gospel says you need not steal to get what you need because you have a good father that can provide everything you need.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you'll just put your trust in him.
Caesar Kalinowski:So what people believe in their heart, if they're not believing the gospel and they're believing they need to do something.
Caesar Kalinowski:Man legalism is going to run out.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can motivate for awhile with a stick, but it's going to, it's going to wear out.
Caesar Kalinowski:People are gonna leave.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're not going to do it.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it won't be attractive to the world.
Caesar Kalinowski:Wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:I get pretty motivated with this stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:See what I did there, I, I get really excited and I can start to get loud and throw hard.
Caesar Kalinowski:As we say, I know it can be hard to rightly motivate people, a mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:We all have these well-worn grooves patterns and language that we've been taught to use that ends up being more law than grace.
Caesar Kalinowski:More work harder than gospel free.
Caesar Kalinowski:Which is what Jesus came to offer and what we get to offer growing in our gospel fluency and learning the language of the gospel is so key in all this and, and, and really important.
Caesar Kalinowski:If we're going to learn to help mode.
Caesar Kalinowski:Ourselves and others on mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I want you to be able to go deeper into this.
Caesar Kalinowski:I want to invite you to a free training webinar that I, that I've given and that I'm giving and you can sign up for it's free and it'll take you deeper into some gospel fluency stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you're interested.
Caesar Kalinowski:Taking this further.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now there'll be a second part to this message I was given.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm going to give you part two next week.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I'll tell you more about that in a minute, but if you want to get this free training, go to Everyday Disciple dot com forward slash motivation.
Caesar Kalinowski:Everyday Disciple dot com forward slash motivation.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you can sign up at a time that's convenient and we'll give you that training on gospel fluency and how the gospel speaks into all of life and changes our motivations.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, let's get to the big three for today.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is always the sort of summary, three things you don't want to miss.
Caesar Kalinowski:They kind of follow head, heart hands, and if you want a printable PDF of this, week's big three as a free.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can get that, just go to Everyday Disciple dot com forward slash big three.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we'll send that right over to you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here are the big three for this week.
Caesar Kalinowski:First, what you love will determine your true motivations in life.
Caesar Kalinowski:What we believe in our head.
Caesar Kalinowski:So our knowledge and past learnings that informs what we believe in our hearts.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so does our overall understanding of the gospel and our true identity.
Caesar Kalinowski:We really are a family of missionary servants now sent as disciples who make disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:Do we believe that are we motivated by that truth?
Caesar Kalinowski:Gospel motivation starts with believing.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is true of us because of.
Caesar Kalinowski:Number two, what might you be missing because of a lack of gospel motivation?
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus said, truly, I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I've been doing, and they will do even greater things than these.
Caesar Kalinowski:He said that in John 14.
Caesar Kalinowski:So what are the greater things God is wanting to do in your heart, in your life and your family, your community.
Caesar Kalinowski:I know he's got something.
Caesar Kalinowski:I know he does.
Caesar Kalinowski:You are perfectly loved by the father.
Caesar Kalinowski:You've got nothing to fear.
Caesar Kalinowski:Embrace this, ask God to start to change the motivations and desires of your life.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can trust him.
Caesar Kalinowski:And here's number three.
Caesar Kalinowski:What do you love the most?
Caesar Kalinowski:Your life, your career, your leisure, your family, your location, where you live?
Caesar Kalinowski:All these good things from God may be keeping you from the life and mission God's actually called you to.
Caesar Kalinowski:He didn't give them to us so we'd hide behind them or spend all of our time just enjoying them.
Caesar Kalinowski:We've been blessed to be a blessing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Don't wait for "someday" or "when we're finished with this" to let the gospel change your affection, your motivation, and maybe even sometimes your location.
Caesar Kalinowski:Living God's life and plan with God's power.
Caesar Kalinowski:The holy spirit will never lack.
Caesar Kalinowski:He always provides for that, which he calls us to, and it will be a blast.
Caesar Kalinowski:It will be powerful and a thrill ride.
Caesar Kalinowski:I promise you.
Caesar Kalinowski:All right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, that's the big.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here's our new segment called something to think about where I take something that's kind of always been said or thought a certain way within our Christianity or at least for a lot of us.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I give us something to think about.
Caesar Kalinowski:So here's, today's something to think about.
Caesar Kalinowski:Why do Christians say that they believe in and take the 10 commandments seriously?
Caesar Kalinowski:And as part of the law God's law, it is.
Caesar Kalinowski:But then so often we treat certain of the 10 commandments as a suggestion.
Caesar Kalinowski:See, I don't know anybody who would say, okay, here's one of the 10 commandments thou shalt not kill, not murder.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, that's, I'm not doing that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or thou shalt not covet the neighbor's wife or sleep with anyone other than your own spouse.
Caesar Kalinowski:We take those as laws.
Caesar Kalinowski:Then when it comes to keep the Sabbath or keep God above everything else, that's the first commandment or keep the Sabbath rest.
Caesar Kalinowski:Why don't we take those as suggestions?
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm being honest.
Caesar Kalinowski:I, I have so many things in my life that I probably daily don't even realize necessarily that I'm putting above God, my preference, my fear things.
Caesar Kalinowski:I want to do my calendar.
Caesar Kalinowski:I try to control my life.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm not putting God first.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I don't rest.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, oftentimes, Hey, I'm not great at this.
Caesar Kalinowski:Why, why am I taking some of these commandments as suggestions?
Caesar Kalinowski:No one would ever say, oh yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Thou shalt, not murder.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, kind of.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm going to cut down on that this year.
Caesar Kalinowski:Who, well, I'm going to cut down on and sleeping with my neighbor.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, what?
Caesar Kalinowski:No, we would, well, maybe this is something to think of.
Caesar Kalinowski:Do we believe what God says all of it, or do we take some of what he tells us as just merely suggest.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:All right.
Caesar Kalinowski:I want to invite you to join me next week.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're going to get into part two of my talk on gospel motivation.
Caesar Kalinowski:You're not going to want to miss that.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm going to go deep into Jesus, surprising commands to his potential disciples that that might throw you for a bit of a loop, but he said it how we are all full time paid missionary.
Caesar Kalinowski:Regardless of where we work.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's an identity thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm going to give you three crucial things.
Caesar Kalinowski:You absolutely cannot make a mature disciple without these three things.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we're also going to talk about where the power to live out of a gospel motivation comes from.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's not just from trying harder.
Caesar Kalinowski:You don't want to miss that.
Caesar Kalinowski:I
Heath Hollensbe:can't wait.
Heath Hollensbe:I'll talk to you.
Heath Hollensbe:Thanks for joining us today for more information on this show and to get loads of free discipleship resources, visit Everyday Disciple dot com.
Heath Hollensbe:And remember, you really can live with a spiritual freedom and relational peace that Jesus promised Everyday.