How the Gospel Changes Our Motivation and Desires Pt.1

After a hard year of changes for Christians and the Church, it seems easier than ever to slip into complacency. Are we going to start another new thing? How do we stay motivated, and motivate others, to desire a lifestyle of discipleship and mission beyond a weekly meeting?

In this episode, we talk about how Gospel Motivation changes the way you lead your church, community group, and family toward life on mission with God… and what happens when you don’t.

In This Episode You’ll Learn:

  • Why the ‘American Dream life’ may be a convenient excuse for not living on mission.
  • How what we believe in our head changes what we believe in our heart.
  • How the gospel changes ALL of our motivation, affections, and desires.
  • Why our Christian lives are often not attractive to non-yet-believers.

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From this episode:`

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The legalist says you should not, and you should.

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What's a legalist.

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That's how we motivate as a legalist.

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You should not.

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And you should like, you should not sin.

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You should do this.

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Okay.

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The gospel says, you need not do that, but you need, you need not do that, but you need.

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So the legalist would say, you need to get on mission.

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The gospel says you needn't get on mission.

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You're already loving and acceptance, but you need to live a life fulfilling God's purposes on mission, because that's how you're going to come to know him.

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That's how God's going to shape and mold you more into Christ.

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Just sitting in a classroom is not going to get that done so you don't need to be on mission to please him.

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You already have that in Christ.

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But you need to be on his mission because that's how he's going to conform you.

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Welcome to the Everyday Disciple podcast where you learn how to live with greater intentionality and an integrated faith that naturally fits into every area.

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In other words, discipleship as a lifestyle.

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This is the stuff your parents, pastors, and seminary professors probably forgot to tell you.

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And now here's your host Caesar.

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Kalinowski all right here.

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We are.

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Hope you're having a good week.

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We've just come through.

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One of the hottest weeks on record.

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I think it may be broke all the records between Seattle and Portland.

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I mentioned that last time we were together, we were getting into some stuff while it was really, really hot, but I'll tell you what, we're going to have a bumper crop of vegetables and different things in our garden.

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The fruits and the veggies are all love in this hot weather Tina has been working so hard in her garden, and we've had a water doubled down on the water and program.

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Obviously with the heat, we got some new fruit trees that also are loving this, and I'm excited for it.

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It's not a problem I'd like to complain about warm.

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We don't get that many months of it here.

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Let me read a couple reviews that have come in on the podcast.

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I love these.

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I try to read these when they come in.

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If we have time, this one is from Redina.

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It says, love your podcast.

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Five stars.

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Thank you.

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It says a friend shared your podcast back in may.

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And within a couple of weeks, I was caught up with all the episodes, big fan of the idea of gospel fluency.

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Oh, we're going to talk about that today.

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You introduced me to as well as the concept of helping people move from unbelief to belief in every area of life.

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Yeah, sure.

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Say that a lot.

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A burden to bring people to Jesus has been lifted off.

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I find your weekly podcast relevant and practical, and I've applied.

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Many of the ideas shared in my daily walk with family, friends, workers, coworkers, and all that.

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I look forward to every episode.

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Thank you so much.

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Really kind and sweet of you.

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Thanks for putting that review out there.

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It helps encourage other people.

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Here's another one that came in from says, love it also for loving it.

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Five stars.

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This is a challenging thing in all the right ways.

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It's theologically deep and sound while being surprisingly practical.

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We sure try.

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I'm inspired all the time.

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Thanks for that too.

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And again, that encourages others.

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As they're searching around through podcast worlds, these ones came in through the apple podcasts.

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Application tool thing.

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Um, but you can leave a review anywhere you want.

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And would you do that for us?

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Would you pay it forward and bless us by helping other people find the podcast by subscribing and sharing and leaving reviews and stuff like that.

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And before I get going, if you're interested in learning a full framework for discipleship and mission, the things we're talking about, um, the Everyday Disciple Podcast, where.

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Discipleship becomes a lifestyle that naturally grows out of your family's rhythms and how you live.

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And it flows out of a gospel fluency in gospel motivation into everyday life.

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We'd love to help you with that.

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Tina and I do coaching as couples.

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Four couples.

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And we have some slots that open up now and then for coaching, there's not a lot because we give so much of our time and access to people in the coaching calls, but we would love to set up a short zoom call to get to know you better and answer any questions you have.

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If you're interested in just finding out more, you can go to Everyday Disciple dot com slash coaching, and there'll be more information there and a little form, real short little thing you can fill out and we'll hop on a zoom call and get to know each other.

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And tell me a little bit about what we're doing with the coaching.

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So with all the changes we're facing as Christians and as the church, things are really different this year.

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In the last 18 months, it's all really changed.

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We have new church and family rhythms of ministry, or we're trying to, or we're trying new things.

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We're trying to help our folks get out there and be the church a whole lot more.

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I'm not saying our meeting just to us, but I know the church capital C really is, and it keeps coming up.

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How do we stay motivated?

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And motivate others to desire, to live a lifestyle of discipleship and mission beyond a weekly.

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Even if that's changed or sometimes we do it live and now people can tune in.

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So we're not seeing as many people cause they're just tuning in, on the stream, on the internet or at least we think they are, but you know how that goes because everything that's beyond like a second or three seconds counts as a stream, as a watch.

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And you're like, wow, look at all the people watching, not necessarily.

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So as we're moving people out to be the church in micro churches, in homes and in small groups in missional communities that are a part of our larger churches, family life together, how do we rightly motivate people?

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I can remember when we first started living in and multiplying missional communities, making disciples that way we weren't always the best at motivating.

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With the gospel, a lot of our quote, unquote encouragements, if you will had a pretty big dose of, well, you should be doing this, right.

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This is what the Bible teaches or supposed to.

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We're supposed to live this way, supposed to do this or that we threw way too much.

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And eventually, even though we were having fun and things were growing, it started to feel like law and people didn't love it.

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They didn't want this life.

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So how do we rightly motivate people and starting with ourselves to want to live this life that Jesus died to give us?

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Well, I want to share a talk that I gave a few years back when I was part of the leadership of Soma communities and my buddy Heath and I, who was part of the life school podcast.

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We've shared parts of this talk before previous.

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Back years ago, uh, when the podcast was called life school, and this is a training I was giving primarily to a large room of church planters.

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However, as you'll hear this applies to all of us, especially today within our changing culture and church rhythms.

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So what I'm going to cover in this part of this talk is how maybe our American dream life may be a smoker.

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For not living on mission.

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It might be a convenient excuse for not living on mission.

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And why, what you believe in your head will change what you believe in your heart.

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That's how it flows, head heart, then into our life, our hands.

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We're also going to talk about how the gospel changes all of our motivations and our affections, even maybe where we live.

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Okay.

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So take a look, listen, I'll be back at the end with the big three for today, and a new segment of something to think about.

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Here we go.

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What we're finding is, is that to consistently motivate people for the mission that just using the stick of should, or why wouldn't you, or you could, or shame or whatever is not a good long-term motivator.

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That really there needs to be a gospel centered motivation to helping our people either get on mission or even really stay on mission because you know, the scripture talks about the beast.

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The world's system, it is pushing against this.

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It's pushing against us.

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It is trying, it is tearing down and throwing up lots of roadblocks that we've gotten used to, or that we're weary of, or that we've even erected sometimes as the church.

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And, and we need, we do need to be motivated.

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I, I need consistent motivation.

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And so I want to talk a little bit.

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How do we, how do we move to gospel motivation with our people?

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Not just more head knowledge or not just more classwork or not just a better small group or Missional Community structure, but how are we going to motivate them in the every day?

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I think what I want to suggest is it's going to start with what you love.

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You have to motivate what you love, what they love, what.

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I'm not sure if it was Twain or who it was that said, if you want to, if you want to teach somebody how to build a boat first, give them a love for the sea.

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Because if they love the sea, they will look out there and go, like, I have to figure out how to build a boat.

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I will figure it out how to.

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If our folks, if our folks are not in love with God and not in love with Christ deeply and are not loving the things that he loves and died for, they really will not be motivated to be out making disciples to make disciples.

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They won't be motivated for the mission.

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That's the mission.

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Now we do a heart check with that.

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Cause, cause I'll be honest with you there again, I'm pretty pragmatic.

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And often I am way more focused on tightening up this broken system and Soma or getting this new thing launched or getting these set of Missional Community shored up over here or getting a key leader plugged in over there.

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And I lose my first love.

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I lose the love of Christ.

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. And that's for people who are created in his image.

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To show the world what he's like, who aren't are not to the degree that God intends and they need Christ and they need the power of the gospel to transform them and send them out on that same, same trajectory.

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What you love is going to be the best.

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It's going to be a huge primary motivator.

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So if, if, if you see, I know when we ever feel like the temperature is turned down and we're not seeing a lot of conversions, we're not seeing people start to walk in the ways of.

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We ask ourselves, how are we doing?

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How's our love temperature?

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Are we motivating our people to really love God and love Christ and love what he died for.

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I love the story in scripture with Abraham and Isaac, right?

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If you know the story of Abraham, you've got, you've got a descendant of a bunch of moon worshipers.

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Who's out doing what he's doing.

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If you know the full story of Abraham, he's not that great.

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He's kind of a big fat liar.

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At one point, he pimps out his wife on a journey to save his own neck.

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Right.

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But God chooses him like grace upon grace, God reaches out and chooses this guy and makes the amazing covenant with him to make him famous throughout all of history and make him into a great nation.

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And that he would bless the whole world through this guy and his family.

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And it starts with a son.

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It starts with.

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Isaac as we tell the story of God, and as we form people in story, and we go to the next story and we look at like, okay, you won't even believe what happens next God calls Abraham to take Isaac up onto a mountain and sacrifice him.

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And if you're a dad or mom, and just that story is horrifying.

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I am an only son.

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I only have one son, two daughters, and I story wrecks me every time.

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But that's what Abraham does.

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And in that story, God's when he stops.

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Abraham's hand coming down with a knife.

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You can just see it in slow Mo just coming down to sacrifice his son already tied up on the wood.

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God says stop did not harm your son.

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Now I know now I know you love me the most

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you did not withhold for me.

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The thing you loved the most in this world.

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Now, as you loved me more, God.

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Like, wow.

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Like really, you know, Abraham loved God more than that first son, that was the hinge pin for the whole nation.

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And then the blessing, ultimately we know now in Christ being real, God says, now I know you love me more.

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You did not withhold even this.

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Let me ask you, what do you love the most in your life?

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Be honest.

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What do you love the most?

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Do you love your status as a pastor elder Sunday school leader, dad.

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Mom, do you love your current house?

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Like, I really love my house, man.

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I can remember back in Chicago when God moved us to Tacoma

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I can remember this was probably a year and a half before he even moved us.

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He was preparing my heart, my wife's heart for moving to plant.

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We had it made back there and we had the nicest house, like anybody in our family had ever had, like, we'd arrived baby, because we were working for a mega church and churches pay well.

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Yeah.

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And I remember the spirit of God saying to me, what if I call you to sell this house?

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And I remember weeping.

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Cause I'm in my heart.

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I was like, I don't want to sell this house.

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This is an awesome freaking house.

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Do you love your kids more than you love God?

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How many of your folks love their kids more than they love the mission that Christ died to send us on?

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It's evident.

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You can see it.

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You could see the little idols that are running around the house and how they're treated by the parents and all the soccer games and the private school.

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And I'm not against any of this.

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Okay.

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But it's just how you wear your heart lands.

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And they got to be at every camp and they've gotta be at summer camp for both soccer and for band.

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And they gotta be at this and that, and this, and they're gonna have this for their education that, or, or like we just had a couple in our community recently talking again about their kids, the pressure they put on their kids to do well and Excel so they could get into the right university.

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And then once they got to the right universities, the pressure that they loving Christian parents, that they were putting on their kids, they love their kids and the way their kids made them appear in their parenting more than they loved.

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And the mission God says to Abraham.

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Now I know you love more.

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We're going to, I have to call idols idols and in the suburbs, it's maybe, I don't know, it's the same everywhere.

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It's maybe even worse here, but people love them, their own houses and they love them cars and then flat screens and those kids and those soccer games and they're big church buildings and go down the list and none of it's bad.

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Until it takes our heart until those good things become ultimate thing.

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Like Tim Keller says, none of that's bad, but we know heart of hearts.

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We know ourselves and we know lots of our people love that stuff way more than they love the mission, because all you all you'd have to do is open up their data, their data, or open up their calendars and you'd know, look at there, look at the ledger of how they spend their money.

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Look at how you spend years.

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You'll know what you love.

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We're going to have to call idols idols, and we're going to have to paint the gospel of God and Christ in all that he is and is doing over and over.

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And we just going to have to see Jesus get beautiful and make much of him over and over so that people will begin to go.

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Like, I can't believe I spent X amount of years chasing after the American nightmare of stuff.

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And.

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When I could've been, I could've, I could've had this role in the kingdom of God.

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I could sweep out the king.

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The corner of this kingdom is more than I deserve, Lord, whatever you'd have for me, what you love the most.

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Now there's two sides of that coin in that story.

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I that's why I love this story.

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He also, he says that God says that to Abraham, but then he goes on to say, now I know that you fear me.

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What you love the most, but now I know that you fear me.

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Well, we know that the fear of the Lord is not this trembling fear in Christ it's it's, it's reverence.

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It's awe.

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It's the most glory.

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It's the most weighty thing in our life is, is God.

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When God says now, I know you fear me.

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He's he's telling Abraham, I know where your heart's at.

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See whatever you fear the most we'll have.

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We'll be the governing power of your life.

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If you fear your parents' approval or not getting it cause you're out planting church and it's, you're not running that, but money that big that's our determinations, that night, how many are you running on Sunday??

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And if you fear approval for how many you're running or your supporters back home or wherever, and you don't know how to tell them that you're actually living life on mission with people and not that many show up on Sunday, but all week long, people are coming to know Jesus and what he's like and put their faith and hope and trust in him.

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If you fear that the most, then you won't see you'll, you'll go back to counting the three BS, butts, budgets, and buildings.

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If you fear most losing your position in the church, because you know, if you go after the idols out, you go, if you fear your wife's approval, she, you feel your husband's approval.

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Now I know that you fear me, whatever you fear the most will be the governing power.

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I don't know if it's even right to think this I'd like to fear the most, that I'm going to stand before the throne someday.

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And you know, when it says in scripture, Jesus says you can do everything you've seen me do.

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And even greater things like what are the greater things?

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Jesus, you really rocked it when you were here.

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I'm hoping to avoid that cross part of your life, but pretty much everything before and after it looks really good.

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And powerful.

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Jesus says you get to do all of that.

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And even more greater things, I don't want to stand there, go like, oh, I could have done that.

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What she just said I could have done.

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I would have done that.

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Like I could have made disciples in that nation.

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I mean, you would have changed a whole city through our family if we lived this, I don't know if that's even good theology.

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I want to fear the most.

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That I actually, that God is glorious and he's the one who I have his approval.

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And so therefore that's the motivator in my life.

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I'm accepted.

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I'm good.

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If we never make another disciple, just as good.

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If our church never gets beyond 20 people, I'm just as accepted.

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We're going to keep on trying to make disciples here.

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What do you fear the most?

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Next thing is you motivate people, motivate people, what they love.

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Okay.

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What they love.

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The next thing is what you believe.

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And we break belief down this way.

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Belief we believe.

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What do you believe in your head?

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What do you believe in your heart?

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And what do you believe with your hands it's old school head, heart, hands it's part of making disciples.

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It's got to be holistic.

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We'll talk about that in that last session.

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So what they believe is going to be a constant motivator.

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What do they believe?

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Let's start with what you believe in your head.

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Do your folks, do, you know, do your people know, are they motivated by a belief in their head of the power and the purpose of the gospel?

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Do they know that the gospel is powerful to save?

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They've saved them from the penalty.

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It's saving them right now, sanctifying them.

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And it's going to save them from all the presence of sin.

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Did they know that?

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Do they know they have a huge purpose for their life?

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And there's no Plan B.

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I'm not going to teach the whole thing again, but do your people know a really big, fully orbed power and purpose of the gospel they need to, or they'll think it's all about them or the flip to the other side, and they'll just get busy without power and they'll hate their life.

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And the world watches that.

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That busy restorative life of doing lots of church stuff and Missional looking stuff without a power that's beyond us.

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The world watches that and goes, no, thanks.

Caesar:

I already have that without the guilt.

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I'm already working my guts out for, I don't know what, without the guilt, you're doing it with a lot of shame and guilt.

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I'll just keep what I got.

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Okay.

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So what they believe in their head, do they believe thegospel.

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Okay.

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Do they believe their identity in Christ?

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We form our communities around this, in everything we do over and over from day one today, when Jesus gets back their identity in Christ, who you are, will lead to what you do.

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If you want to motivate people on the mission of making disciples to make disciples with all of their lives, they're going to actually have to believe they've become a new creation.

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Now how we articulate how God has led us to articulate it is there's four sort of four, it filters.

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We say, this is our identity family of God.

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We're missionaries, we're family, we're missionaries, we're servants, we're learners.

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And then that's the word we use for disciple because in our context, disciple carried with it, some kind of weird kind of.

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Leftover residual and Tacoma.

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So we say learner, a person who's taking responsibility for their own learning and the learning of others.

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Okay.

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So we, we, this rolls out of our mouth all day, every day.

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We're a family of missionary servants.

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That's who we are, who are, and are making disciples.

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We're family of missionary servants who are making disciples now, where are we get that?

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Just in case you want to know?

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It's it comes from this thing called the trinity

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okay.

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If we all have the same father church, we're sons and daughters of the same dad, what does that make us family?

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If, if, if the son is our king he's Lord overall, it's his kingdom, his church that makes us his servants, the two basic requirements for a kingdom to exist.

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A king and servants.

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And then who in the Trinity father, son, who is the sending agent of Christ who sent Christ.

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And now who is the sending agent of the church, the spirit.

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See if we have the holy spirit, we are missionary people.

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We are.

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We're a family of missionary servants.

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If we're, if we're in Christ, that's why, when you baptize people, did you ever wonder why they baptized people into the name of that's an identity statement, then baptizing them, making disciples, baptizing them into the name of the father.

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So they know they're my family, that they're all family.

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They're our chosen family, a set apart family in the Son there to be servants because he's the king.

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And he actually came a servant . And the holy spirit go therefore and make, see when you baptize people.

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That's what you're doing is you're baptizing them into a new identity.

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They come up out of the water, new as it were.

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That's what it means to be a disciple.

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Do your people believe their identity?

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See if you are a missionary, then you go and you seek.

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If you're a family, you live a certain way.

Caesar:

People say like, well, how do you guys in Soma live this way?

Caesar:

And your lives are sort of all intertwined and you're sharing your stuff and you're doing this and you're doing that well.

Caesar:

What is, what is a good family?

Caesar:

If we're family, what does life look like?

Caesar:

Does it look like we sit in silence once a week for an hour and a half in rows?

Caesar:

Does it look like no.

Caesar:

On top of that we get together and study that same.

Caesar:

Over some pie once a week, but I don't really have any other connection to you all week.

Caesar:

That would be a crappy family.

Caesar:

See our identity, it answers, it, answers it all.

Caesar:

What would a family of missionary servants who are disciples and are making disciples?

Caesar:

What would they look like?

Caesar:

You're going to have to motivate your people.

Caesar:

What do they know?

Caesar:

What do they know in their head?

Caesar:

And do they know then that the mission is to make disciples?

Caesar:

I swear.

Caesar:

I think we have done a really good job.

Caesar:

I know I did for years that I think what we taught people, like what they knew in their head, the mission was, was come to church on Sunday, get people to church on Sunday.

Caesar:

So the professional can tell him.

Caesar:

And then eventually, eventually I guess they'll bring more people here.

Caesar:

I don't know.

Caesar:

What's the ultimate goal here?

Caesar:

Like yes.

Caesar:

Average person doesn't know that ultimate goal is that the world would be full of disciples.

Caesar:

So the world would be full of Jesus.

Caesar:

That was the plan from garden forward before the garden, your average person thinks, I don't know.

Caesar:

I guess I'm supposed to get people to church and try to sin less, right.

Caesar:

I don't.

Caesar:

Cause I don't want to burn in hell.

Caesar:

Like in fact I should probably tell people about hell a lot.

Caesar:

I mean, I could go right now.

Caesar:

Seriously.

Caesar:

We could go out right now to a pub at lunch.

Caesar:

I'll put money on the table.

Caesar:

I'll talk at least five people praying the sinner's prayer.

Caesar:

Cause they're not going to want to burn in hell.

Caesar:

Is that the ultimate goal or is it that they would be full of the spirit of God and they would live out the purpose that God created them for.

Caesar:

Do people know that making disciples who make disciples is what they were saved for.

Caesar:

They're going to need to know that that brings implication.

Caesar:

Wow.

Caesar:

That's what I was saved and created and saved for.

Caesar:

Why am I spending 99% of my time in life and resources doing that?

Caesar:

So what they know in their head, what they believe in their head, I'm sorry, what they believe in their head.

Caesar:

Now, what they believe in their heart is probably even more important.

Caesar:

Like are they believe in the gospel at a heart level?

Caesar:

So they have peace.

Caesar:

Are they leaning into grace?

Caesar:

Right.

Caesar:

Do you believe, like if we're talking about motivating people with the gospel for mission, do you believe that you must make disciples or be Missional to have God's love and acceptance and approval?

Caesar:

Because we started, we started doing that.

Caesar:

Our people seriously, they would hang their heads around us, like, well, what's up.

Caesar:

Well, you know, I don't think our Missional Community is doing very good and suddenly they, they knew they hadn't earned our approval and they probably in their hearts, weren't believing that they actually had earned it.

Caesar:

They see, we're not doing very good at earning God's approval because we're just not that Missional.

Caesar:

I'm still kind of sucked into, you know, CSI, reruns and soccer and too much, I suppose, I'm not pleasing.

Caesar:

God enough.

Caesar:

You know, do they believe the truth of the gospel?

Caesar:

See, the legalist says you should not, and you should.

Caesar:

That's a legalist.

Caesar:

That's how we motivate as a legalist.

Caesar:

You should not.

Caesar:

And you should like, you should not sin.

Caesar:

You should do this.

Caesar:

Okay.

Caesar:

The gospel says, you need not do that, but you need, you need not do that, but you need, so the legalist let's say you need to get on mission.

Caesar:

The gospel says you needn't get on mission.

Caesar:

You're already loving and acceptance, but you need to live a life fulfilling God's purposes on mission, because that's how you're going to come to know him.

Caesar:

That's how God's going to shape and mold you more into Christ.

Caesar:

Just sitting in a classroom is not going to get that done so you don't need to be on mission to please him.

Caesar:

You already have that in Christ, but you need to be on his mission because that's how he's going to conform you.

Caesar:

Well, legalist says you shouldn't steal.

Caesar:

You should work hard for what you need.

Caesar:

The gospel says you need not steal to get what you need because you have a good father that can provide everything you need.

Caesar:

If you'll just put your trust in him.

Caesar:

So what people believe in their heart, if they're not believing the gospel and they're believing they need to do something.

Caesar:

Man legalism is going to run out.

Caesar:

You can motivate for awhile with a stick, but it's going to, it's going to wear out.

Caesar:

People are gonna leave.

Caesar:

We're not going to do it.

Caesar:

And it won't be attractive to the world.

Caesar:

Wow.

Caesar:

I get pretty motivated with this stuff.

Caesar:

See what I did there, I, I get really excited and I can start to get loud and throw hard.

Caesar:

As we say, I know it can be hard to rightly motivate people, a mission.

Caesar:

We all have these well-worn grooves patterns and language that we've been taught to use that ends up being more law than grace.

Caesar:

More work harder than gospel free.

Caesar:

Which is what Jesus came to offer and what we get to offer growing in our gospel fluency and learning the language of the gospel is so key in all this and, and, and really important.

Caesar:

If we're going to learn to help mode.

Caesar:

Ourselves and others on mission.

Caesar:

And I want you to be able to go deeper into this.

Caesar:

I want to invite you to a free training webinar that I, that I've given and that I'm giving and you can sign up for it's free and it'll take you deeper into some gospel fluency stuff.

Caesar:

If you're interested.

Caesar:

Taking this further.

Caesar:

Now there'll be a second part to this message I was given.

Caesar:

I'm going to give you part two next week.

Caesar:

Okay.

Caesar:

And I'll tell you more about that in a minute, but if you want to get this free training, go to Everyday Disciple dot com forward slash motivation.

Caesar:

Everyday Disciple dot com forward slash motivation.

Caesar:

And you can sign up at a time that's convenient and we'll give you that training on gospel fluency and how the gospel speaks into all of life and changes our motivations.

Caesar:

Well, let's get to the big three for today.

Caesar:

This is always the sort of summary, three things you don't want to miss.

Caesar:

They kind of follow head, heart hands, and if you want a printable PDF of this, week's big three as a free.

Caesar:

You can get that, just go to Everyday Disciple dot com forward slash big three.

Caesar:

And we'll send that right over to you.

Caesar:

Here are the big three for this week.

Caesar:

First, what you love will determine your true motivations in life.

Caesar:

What we believe in our head.

Caesar:

So our knowledge and past learnings that informs what we believe in our hearts.

Caesar:

And so does our overall understanding of the gospel and our true identity.

Caesar:

We really are a family of missionary servants now sent as disciples who make disciples.

Caesar:

Do we believe that are we motivated by that truth?

Caesar:

Gospel motivation starts with believing.

Caesar:

This is true of us because of.

Caesar:

Number two, what might you be missing because of a lack of gospel motivation?

Caesar:

Jesus said, truly, I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I've been doing, and they will do even greater things than these.

Caesar:

He said that in John 14.

Caesar:

So what are the greater things God is wanting to do in your heart, in your life and your family, your community.

Caesar:

I know he's got something.

Caesar:

I know he does.

Caesar:

You are perfectly loved by the father.

Caesar:

You've got nothing to fear.

Caesar:

Embrace this, ask God to start to change the motivations and desires of your life.

Caesar:

You can trust him.

Caesar:

And here's number three.

Caesar:

What do you love the most?

Caesar:

Your life, your career, your leisure, your family, your location, where you live?

Caesar:

All these good things from God may be keeping you from the life and mission God's actually called you to.

Caesar:

He didn't give them to us so we'd hide behind them or spend all of our time just enjoying them.

Caesar:

We've been blessed to be a blessing.

Caesar:

Don't wait for "someday" or "when we're finished with this" to let the gospel change your affection, your motivation, and maybe even sometimes your location.

Caesar:

Living God's life and plan with God's power.

Caesar:

The holy spirit will never lack.

Caesar:

He always provides for that, which he calls us to, and it will be a blast.

Caesar:

It will be powerful and a thrill ride.

Caesar:

I promise you.

Caesar:

All right.

Caesar:

Well, that's the big.

Caesar:

Here's our new segment called something to think about where I take something that's kind of always been said or thought a certain way within our Christianity or at least for a lot of us.

Caesar:

And I give us something to think about.

Caesar:

So here's, today's something to think about.

Caesar:

Why do Christians say that they believe in and take the 10 commandments seriously?

Caesar:

And as part of the law God's law, it is.

Caesar:

But then so often we treat certain of the 10 commandments as a suggestion.

Caesar:

See, I don't know anybody who would say, okay, here's one of the 10 commandments thou shalt not kill, not murder.

Caesar:

Okay.

Caesar:

Yeah.

Caesar:

Well, that's, I'm not doing that.

Caesar:

Or thou shalt not covet the neighbor's wife or sleep with anyone other than your own spouse.

Caesar:

We take those as laws.

Caesar:

Then when it comes to keep the Sabbath or keep God above everything else, that's the first commandment or keep the Sabbath rest.

Caesar:

Why don't we take those as suggestions?

Caesar:

I'm being honest.

Caesar:

I, I have so many things in my life that I probably daily don't even realize necessarily that I'm putting above God, my preference, my fear things.

Caesar:

I want to do my calendar.

Caesar:

I try to control my life.

Caesar:

I'm not putting God first.

Caesar:

And I don't rest.

Caesar:

Well, oftentimes, Hey, I'm not great at this.

Caesar:

Why, why am I taking some of these commandments as suggestions?

Caesar:

No one would ever say, oh yeah.

Caesar:

Thou shalt, not murder.

Caesar:

Yeah, kind of.

Caesar:

I'm going to cut down on that this year.

Caesar:

Who, well, I don't know.

Caesar:

This COVID thing really threw me off 20, 22.

Caesar:

That's what I'm going to cut down on and sleeping with my neighbor.

Caesar:

Oh, what?

Caesar:

No, we would, well, maybe this is something to think of.

Caesar:

Do we believe what God says all of it, or do we take some of what he tells us as just merely suggest.

Caesar:

Hmm.

Caesar:

All right.

Caesar:

I want to invite you to join me next week.

Caesar:

We're going to get into part two of my talk on gospel motivation.

Caesar:

You're not going to want to miss that.

Caesar:

I'm going to go deep into Jesus, surprising commands to his potential disciples that that might throw you for a bit of a loop, but he said it how we are all full time paid missionary.

Caesar:

Regardless of where we work.

Caesar:

That's an identity thing.

Caesar:

I'm going to give you three crucial things.

Caesar:

You absolutely cannot make a mature disciple without these three things.

Caesar:

And we're also going to talk about where the power to live out of a gospel motivation comes from.

Caesar:

It's not just from trying harder.

Caesar:

You don't want to miss that.

Caesar:

I can't wait.

Caesar:

I'll talk to you.

Caesar:

Thanks for joining us today for more information on this show and to get loads of free discipleship resources, visit Everyday Disciple dot com.